Posts by B Jones

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men, in reply to Alfie,

    misogynistic lyrics becoming mainstream

    You do recall the Beatles sang about burning a woman's apartment down because she invited the narrator home and sent him to bed in the bath rather than with her? Or Sting's "Every Move You Make"? Or Brown Sugar? Angel in the Centerfold? Dadrock is full of misogyny and you don't even notice it, it's just part of the wallpaper.

    If we think the PM should front up at Waitangi and take a bit of argy bargy on the chin, then maybe we could put up with a little argy bargy on this issue too.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Polity: This is Why, This is Why I Fight,

    Me too. I remember Rob from varsity (I was one of the quiet ones a couple of degrees of friendship away, reading my textbook in the Kirk foyer before POLS 101) and it's a hell of a thing to read about relatively close to your own circles. I have young daughters too, and my heart goes out to your family.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men,

    I remember the story Maggie Barry told about being assaulted by Rolf Harris during an interview. Didn't get called out at the time; only years after. I remember the talk about young groupies in the 70s that broke out after David Bowie's death. Things have changed - we're more able and willing to call it out now. It's depressing and disheartening to see our friends and idols' clay feet, and depressing to think of how slow progress is, but maybe this will serve as the kind of consciousness raising that was so important to second wave feminism.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men,

    But also, what Joanna said. You can't other it by blaming an influx of boofheads, when other stuff passes under the radar because it's camouflaged in your community.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men,

    To be fair, there are more than a few communities right now where sexist behaviour has been exposed where it hadn't previously been visible, and they're struggling to come to terms with it. "Hey, this is wrong and we should stop it" is one of the less clueless response options. Even if it erases past activism, at least it makes progress toward a solution.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men,

    I can't find those guys on Facebook - the link didn't work and although their names are popular searches, they don't seem to come up. If they've had to take their pages down that's kind of poetic justice.

    I guess whenever something gets popular enough, people who haven't had the chance to absorb the vibe and fit it will inevitably come and check it out, and trip up on the tacit rules of the longstanding members. Nobody's mentioned rap because it got thoroughly gone over back when Chris Brown was coming to Nz, and it's not that relevant here.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men,

    Alfie, consider the possibility that prioritising your own experience over that of women who are experiencing the harassing will come across to a lot of people as a bit, well, you know...

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men,

    I think something to improve the convenience of reporting abuse is worth exploring, but only to save the hassle of finding a security guard and pointing them at the right person. If the problem is security not taking it seriously, there's an easier fix than an app.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men,

    Yes Stephen, or you've got better at noticing. Some things look worse because people are engaging with problems to change them - see also crime statistics.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Fix up, young men,

    Yes, well, guys wouldn't recall it. Guys aren't in the best position to observe and report, and they rely on women to tell them about it. Which may not happen, for all sorts of reasons.

    I read Hunter S Thompson on Hell's Angels and gang rapes a while ago. This shit isn't new. There's always someone with the shock horror reaction saying we should do something about these mods/rockers/bikies/punks/hiphop artists/musclebros/Targeted Other of choice, and there's always someone saying notallwhatevers, and someone (hey, Hunter) saying don't you really sign up for that when you do X?

    Toxic masculinity is practically everywhere. Academia. Most religions. Atheism. Music. Media. Politics. Gaming. Business. Sport. The Military. If we blame the field in which it appears, we lose focus on what the problem really is, and maybe miss some ways to solve it.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 927 posts Report Reply

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