Posts by llew40

  • OnPoint: Don't put words in our mouths, Rob,

    National, OTOH, are trying to do something fundamentally evil and succeeding very well, aided by people like Tze Ming Mok and Keith Ng.

    Eh?

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  • Speaker: A week on from the housing controversy, in reply to Dean Wallis,

    I'm not sure I agree Dean. While the media treatment has certainly helped fan the flames, I simply find it scarcely credible to believe that, in giving the data to the Herald in the way that they did, Labour can claim to have been surprised by the outcome, and by how this debate has played out. I suspect that in itself has been what has upset so many party supporters - was it a conscious dog-whistle or not. Either way its not particularly edifying.

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  • Speaker: A week on from the housing controversy,

    Nobody should read anything in our data analysis as being critical of Kiwis who happen to have Chinese ethnicity

    I'd buy this Rob if it wasnt for the fact that so many NZers of Chinese descent quite clearly read it as a criticism, based entirely on the way Labour chose to frame a very real issue, and the way in which that issue was then reported. Its hard to back away from that saying "hey now, thats not what we really meant" ....

    OTOH, Labour has achieved its goal of getting the issue talked about. Its just had to take quite a few punches to the face in doing so. It might have been ham-fisted, it might have been some kind of deliberate dog-whistle, but maybe the strategists think that the punches in the face were worth it to land a few on the Government.

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  • Speaker: Identification strategy: Now…,

    property speculators and rentierism - really doesn't sound convincing to me.

    Sure, people are obviously concerned at the housing issue, but these cynical tactics are simply wrong. Present the real data - who buys up all the housing - and if people want to draw their own racist conclusions, that's their problem. At least the real problem will be out there for discussion.

    Except I dont actually think this is the real problem. It's hard to get angry at people investing in property when for decades, successive governments have built/allowed the inherent bias towards property as an investment class to build up. Investment capital is (usually) a rational thing, and flows towards best risk/return opportunity. If I had the capital to invest, I would probably have done the same over the last few decades.

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  • Speaker: House-buying patterns in Auckland, in reply to BenWilson,

    Thats a fair point Ben, affordability is also a product of circumstance, and I'd certainly love to be in a position where I can use the equity in my home to give my (currently teenage) children a step onto the first rung of the property ladder (if they want to live in Auckland).

    Its a natural thing to want to do, but it does feel like (while it will put my kids in the lucky category) it will also exacerbate the underlying structural problem.

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  • OnPoint: My last name sounds Chinese,

    Sorry but hard to see this as anything other than ham-fisted politics. Phil has turned a legitimate economic issue related to the impact of foreign speculators on Auckland housing affordability to a singling out of Chinese investors based on ropy stats. So the political opposition gets to frame labour as dog whistling, labour get to spend days explaining what they *really* meant. And media get plenty to feed off.

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  • OnPoint: My last name sounds Chinese,

    Labour have pushed this line before, at the time I couldn't understand why they were so keen to appropriate NZ First policies.... They must have some research that is telling them it's a vote winner. Instead of dog-whistling 'foreign investors' I would have thought a more natural fit would be target the multi nationals avoiding paying hundreds of millions each year into tax base. But no.

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  • Speaker: Honest Bastards & Dishonest Cowards,

    *sigh*

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  • Speaker: Honest Bastards & Dishonest Cowards,

    Hmm, read this interesting post and thought, you seem to be arguing that Labour has been campaigning as National-lite, and that this is a sure-fire way to continue to lose, and that they should revert to their principles. I think.

    Whilst I am a Labour/Green voter myself, thats simply not how I see it. I see the role of a major political party as primarily to have enough relevance to win elections in order to enact progressive change and govern. I've not seen any signals or evidence in the last three elections that there is a latent and growing majority constituency of 'left-of-centre' (to use the parlance) voters who have not been voting for Labour because they regard them as too 'centre'.

    I think the electorate has moved. And the nature of political persuasion has changed. If Labour believes they can drag a majority of voters 'left' through persuasion and through the abilities of great political leadership, awesome. I fear that way lies more electoral pain however. In the same way that Republicans are painting themselves into a demographic and constituency corner, my concern is simply that Labour are appealing to less and less people, in the name of principles that sadly no longer seem to be relevant to many NZers, and that gaining broader appeal needs to be the highest priority.

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  • Hard News: Whakamomori: Raw, open and honest,

    Good piece. I've got nothing but personal admiration for Mike King's personal journey. Kia kaha, Mike. And I don't get the connection between 'normalising' something and that process somehow exacerbating the problem. Sir JK has 'normalised' depression for many who regarded it as a stigma rather than an illness. Understanding something and being able to talk about that something and share your experiences is surely the first steps towards being able to cope/deal with it?

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