Discussion: On Copyright

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  • Mark Harris,

    If you're not already aware, Matthew Poole has made a guest post on Lawrence Lessig's presentation in Auckland this week

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    If you're not already aware, Matthew Poole

    gee thanks mark, why couldn't you have not told us and we could have gotten on with some actual real life work,

    someone's wrong on the internet indeed.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Mark Harris,

    You didn't have to read it...

    Waikanae • Since Jul 2008 • 1343 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    You didn't have to read it...

    why would i not read something that directly affects me?, it's you bystanders that didn't have to read it,

    and besides,

    no warning, no spoiler alert, I blame you, its all your fault,

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    And don't come cryin to me if one of them newfangled horseless carriages crushes your petticoat..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    And don't come cryin to me if one of them newfangled horseless carriages crushes your petticoat..

    .........ok,

    good night at the pub was is sasha?
    sadly I spent my day recording more fodder for that hack Lessig to liberate me of, and for that other hack dubber (lovely bloke though he is) to tell me how to turn into free love gold. I thought it was tellingly interesting that dubber ran away from the possibility of bumping into mr sharkey, apparently he's not so so confident of his plans for new music strategies past the odd exception, one radiohead wins the battle for him,
    right, can't sleep, got to screen print some t-shirts to pay the rent.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    petticoat

    and you can't talk you big pansy. running off in a tiff every time someone doesn't agree with you :)
    I'm pretty sure if it came to a dress up competition between you and me you'd be the one wearing the petticoat, not that there's anything wrong with that.

    (ps sam f made me say that,)

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    I so totally blame Sam fer that one. :)

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    its interest that you see media as 'the same litre of petrol' when it is infact small segments of the cost of that litre of 'petrol' shared over multiple instantiations of it. if it was merely "one litre of petrol' then the cost of that litre would hold the full cost of production, ie many thousands of dollars.

    just wanted to expand that part of the model for pricing of media and spreading cost of production over multiple copies is based on selling a large chunk of them. That cost is not represented by the physical disc or dvd (which obviously does bear some expense to produce but is not really representative of the "value" of the product) , but by the content and the consumption of it.
    Selling second hand media negates that equation as do libraries, loaning one copy to all your friends (essentially a media rental role without the shop or rental fee).
    I guess media have built their failing model to absorb those loop holes even home taping between friends, but the model can't sustain wholesale piracy.

    The library issue (free flow of information issues aside) is an interesting situation. what if all the 140(?) libraries in the country bought one copy each of bone people and loaned that to the remainder of the population till they had all read it. The print run would be 140, and the model for production would fall over. Either the individual price for books would have to go up to cover it or they would have to look at how libraries operated. That hasn't happened of course but its a delicate balance.

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Dylan Mordaunt,

    There seems to be too many posts to get a grip on the whole discussion at this late stage.

    Whilst approaching copyright, should we not be tackling the issue of 'intellectual property' as a whole- particularly as it relates to biotechnology and pharmaceuticals given the real-world impact which intellectual property rules have on public health?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2007 • 22 posts Report Reply

  • robbery,

    Whilst approaching copyright, should we not be tackling the issue of 'intellectual property' as a whole- particularly as it relates to biotechnology and pharmaceuticals given the real-world impact which intellectual property rules have on public health?

    I think that's more patent than copyright, but an interesting area that's well out side my field of experience as it would be to many here, but that probably won't stop em telling us how it should be done :)

    new zealand • Since May 2007 • 1882 posts Report Reply

  • Gareth Ward,

    If you haven't seen xkcd this morning - LOLtastic:
    http://xkcd.com/501/

    Auckland, NZ • Since Mar 2007 • 1727 posts Report Reply

  • jon_knox,

    datacaps were mentioned a little on Nat'l radio last week, as part of piece on the Southern Cross link/cable. (sorry about the ugly link...cut & paste URL into media players 'Open URL')

    http://www.radionz.co.nz/**_**_data/assets/audio_item/0006/1774869/aft-20081105-1510-Virtual_World-m048.asx

    Belgium • Since Nov 2006 • 464 posts Report Reply

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