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Hard News: Awful in more than one way

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  • Riddley Walker,

    They shoot Kiwis, don't they?

    only when they're on horses, which after all is not very natural for kiwis.

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report

  • andrew llewellyn,

    "They shoot Kiwis, don't they?"

    Only for sport.

    But let's talk pukekoes.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report

  • andrew llewellyn,

    they don't go 'bang' they don't seem to attract the same restrictions as bangy things.

    the correspondent's unassailable logic was that the amount of time required to reload a crossbow would allow for a good old fashioned regrouping of the targets, concerted rush & subsequent lynching of the crossbowman.

    I doubt rabbits would get that organised though in the short space of time.

    Want to feel really smug and superior? Read some of the American respondents to the Heraldss gun control editorial.

    Yeah, but it's no surprise they get uppity over criticism like that, particularly so soon afterwards. I mean, reason needs a bit of time to get over the shock.

    Not that it'll make any difference.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report

  • Nobody Important,

    But let's talk pukekoes

    There were 6 godwits (I think) on that thin strip of coastline near the Onewa Rd / Motorway Interchange (Auckland) that could've been shot. Woulda saved the taxpayers a fortune when they put thru the new bus/motor way.

    Not that I think they __should have been shot, mind you. (But it would have saved plenty)__

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report

  • Juha Saarinen,

    I came across this idyllic scene from small town America. It shows with all clarity why guns are necessary to deal with errm, illegal Mexican immigration for instance.

    Since Nov 2006 • 529 posts Report

  • andrew llewellyn,

    with errm, illegal Mexican immigration for instance.

    Hmm... that probably explains why uzis are more easily available there than here.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report

  • hamishm,

    Some great letters from the Dom there. The themes are very familiar to me because of the American dominated forum I frequent.
    The super aggressive reminders of who won WWII and who we should be grateful to. The hairtrigger response to any sort of comment that doesn't include a paen of praise to America.
    This may, of course, merely reflect the sort of people that write into newspapers, but it is deeply unsettling considering that they now consider themselves to be Wyatt Earps cleaning up Tombstone.
    I like the ordinary Americans I meet and have contact with, I truly worry about them living in that place which their compatriots want to turn into a walled armed camp.
    But most disturbing to me today is the death toll in Baghdad being 10 times the Virginia toll but it will be lucky if that gets 1/10th of the news reporting.

    Since Nov 2006 • 357 posts Report

  • Mark Thomas,

    Want to feel really smug and superior? Read some of the American respondents to the Heraldss gun control editorial.

    i don't know who said it, but people do tend to get the governments they deserve (probably a bit of a harsh comment for your average sudanese, iraqi or rwandan, i know).

    those moronic middle americans can keep their stupid gun laws. i'm happy i'm living in a country run by people with some sense and perspective

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 317 posts Report

  • Nobody Important,

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report

  • Che Tibby,

    that probably explains why uzis are more easily available there than here.

    pah! uzi-schmoozi.

    the discerning protector of the free world against invasion from wetbacks uses a heckler&koch.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report

  • Che Tibby,

    if you really wanna see the pictures Cho Seung-Hui took of himself and sent to NBC

    jesus... this almost brought tears to my eyes.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report

  • WH,

    those moronic middle americans can keep their stupid gun laws.

    I don't think anyone is proposing that we adopt US gun laws. The question is whether New Zealanders should give opinions on what gun laws should prevail in the US.

    As someone pointed out earlier, the right to bear arms is contained in the Second Amendment to the US Constitution.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_bear_arms#United_States_of_America

    The US federal system was established on the premise that governmental power needs to be checked. The right of the citizenry to bear arms was thought to form part of this protection. This can in some ways be seen to flow both from the events leading up to the War of Independence and the American Civil War (especially in Southern states such as Viriginia). As I was trying to ironically demonstrate earlier by quoting the American national anthem, the Americans have unique cultural experiences of and ideas about conflict, war, and guns.

    Since Nov 2006 • 797 posts Report

  • hamishm,

    this almost brought tears to my eyes.

    That's bad, alright. I wonder how many red blooded guys have done the same sort of posing and now should be feeling a little queasy?


    Erm, what does the "Sub" bit of submachine gun mean?

    Since Nov 2006 • 357 posts Report

  • andrew llewellyn,

    the discerning protector of the free world against invasion from wetbacks uses a heckler&koch

    Somewhere earlier on this thread is a link to another chinese student with a gun collection, in Virginia. On his blog is a picture of the cutest Heckler & Koch machine gun, which is probably responsible for uzi being near the forefront of my mind.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report

  • Juha Saarinen,

    Means it's smaller than a heavy machine gun, portable and more like an automatic pistol with longer barrel.

    Since Nov 2006 • 529 posts Report

  • hamishm,

    As someone pointed out earlier, the right to bear arms is contained in the Second Amendment to the US Constitution

    That is the crux of it, isn't it? Their political system gives so much power to the preznit that they felt that they had to have firearms just in case.

    Since Nov 2006 • 357 posts Report

  • andrew llewellyn,

    Erm, what does the "Sub" bit of submachine gun mean?

    Complete guess that it denotes a handheld weapon, rather than a big mounted version.

    Since Nov 2006 • 2075 posts Report

  • hamishm,

    Thanks Juha, size does matter in this case, there's a surprise

    Since Nov 2006 • 357 posts Report

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Sub is commonly used as a prefix to mean 'under', as in submarine. It can also be used to mean 'small' however, as in submachine gun, and subcontinent.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report

  • Riddley Walker,

    smaller than a heavy machine gun

    the 'sub' bit comes from a time when most machine guns were much larger, not meant to be very portable things; the ones we commonly hear of today like uzis, ingrams, MP5s etc were much smaller than the norm then. it doesn't refer to their capacity/rate/firepower.

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    The US federal system was established on the premise that governmental power needs to be checked. The right of the citizenry to bear arms was thought to form part of this protection. This can in some ways be seen to flow both from the events leading up to the War of Independence and the American Civil War (especially in Southern states such as Viriginia).

    at the time the constitution was written I think it had more to do with the ongoing fight with those bad-ass Brits and their greedy King.

    I worry about the ongoing American tendency to assume that the drafters of their founding document had some sort of god given omni-vision of the future.

    The super aggressive reminders of who won WWII and who we should be grateful to.

    yep, we can kill, bomb, invade who we like because Hollywood has given us a version of the past that gives us that license.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Nobody Important,

    The US federal system was established on the premise that governmental power needs to be checked.

    er ... so why aren't they up in arms about what Bush and his minions (or is that visa versa) are doing (have done) to their prescious Constitution.

    Move Along, Lady Liberty, This Doesn't Concern You

    expat • Since Mar 2007 • 319 posts Report

  • Che Tibby,

    yep, we can kill, bomb, invade who we like because Hollywood has given us a version of the past that gives us that license.

    indeed. the usa likes to forget that three great battles won ww2.

    stalingrad
    the battle of britain
    midway

    they only fought in one of these. making money selling arms doesn't count as 'winning'.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report

  • Riddley Walker,

    well put che, positively effervescent

    AKL • Since Feb 2007 • 890 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    Che...you forgot Al Alamein...the first German defeat...not a P-51 in sight. As Churchill said (and I paraphrase) ...before it we didn't win a battle, after it we didn't lose one......

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

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