Hard News: Food and drink
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The programme also features Gary Gottleib and Karl du Fresne on legislative panic
Was it just me, or were those two not their usual 'lively as carelessly disposing of a cigarette butt in a fireworks factory' selves?
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Was it just me or did Geoffrey Palmer sound like a grumpy old grandpa who had no idea what the kids were up to? I suppose he does live within a cocoon of privilege, but really, is the drunkeness on our streets that surprising if you['ve had your eyes open for the last few decades?
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agreed, it's like trying to solve the problem by treating the symptoms.
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Completely OT. But sad news - artist Julian Dashper passed away yesterday.
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I suppose he does live within a cocoon of privilege, but really, is the drunkeness on our streets that surprising if you've had your eyes open for the last few decades?
I'm told it was far worse in the days of six o'clock closing.
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I gotta say Russell your tweets from the food festival throughout the day were making me somewhat peckish and made my lettuce,cheese and vegemite sandwich for lunch a tad unappetising.
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2am closing and kiss goodbye to any decent gigs with decent internationals.
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I'm told it was far worse in the days of six o'clock closing.
You mean swilling a whole night's worth of piss in half an hour is not guaranteed to end well? I bracing myself to get under the headline items, but there's a rather distasteful air of 'get off my fucking lawn you disrespectful shitbag kids' settling in already. Of course, nice middle-class middle-aged people don't drink and drive, make noxious cocks of themselves in public, bash their lippy bitches or anything else nasty when pissed...
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Was it just me or did Geoffrey Palmer sound like a grumpy old grandpa who had no idea what the kids were up to?
Snap! I was about to post the same thing. I was waiting for him to declare that it was shocking to see a young woman's ankle, deliberately flaunted!
His fuddy duddyness has a serious side though, because it indicate he is completely out of touch with modern society - which is dangerous considering he is charged with making suggestions on our liquor laws.
But I like the age split, it makes a lot of sense. I would also re-impose a ban on supermarket/superette liquor sales and restrict off-licence hours. But closing hours? 2am? I only go to town after eleven!
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Was it just me or did Geoffrey Palmer sound like a grumpy old grandpa who had no idea what the kids were up to?
I suspect it's more that Sir Geoffrey is out of practice when it come to dealing with people who don't automatically kiss the hem of his robe, and it makes him rather tense.
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2am closing and kiss goodbye to any decent gigs with decent internationals.
I dunno - I was interested to see that most gigs in London (decent or otherwise) finish by 11 so everyone can get the tubes home.
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Six o'clock closing was daft but there was only a few drunks visible staggering home after 6. Some would be carrying bowling bags with a couple of half gallon jars of draght beer to tide them over. There certainly weren't any number of young or old hooning it up late at night. Should we return to 6 o'clock closing? Certainly not. Should there be all night opening? Don't think that this is a good thing. There is a hell of a lot of downsides to over the top drinking- everyone knows this but how do you change the trend? Umm
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From yer Dimpost:
Before entering Parliament Tiberius lived on a fruit orchard near Otaki, where his duties included eating algea and protecting a blueberry patch from sparrows. He also served on the Board of Directors for Meridian Energy.
As if such representatives of the rural sector aren't already over-represented in the Gummint. It's an outrage, it is.
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I suspect it's more that Sir Geoffrey is out of practice when it come to dealing with people who don't automatically kiss the hem of his robe, and it makes him rather tense.
I think it was Denis Welch who said that the best thing about Mike Moore's rolling of Palmer in 1990 was that the country had been saved from a Labour election campaign that would have resembled a series of royal visits.
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I'm at a loss to know how it's any of Sir Geoffrey's business if I want to go out drinking at 3am. Now, Mrs_Red on the other hand...
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We could always license drinkers instead of outlets...and have automated doors that only let micro-chipped, licensed drinkers in.
You'd report to the testing station when you turn 18, knock back a dozen RTDs, then they'd monitor your behaviour and interview you on a range of topics.
If you didn't come across as too much of a dick, you'd pass. I you wet your pants, punched someone, fell asleep, or voiced your support for ACT, you'd be stood down for a year before you could try again.
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While spanking Geoffrey's patrician arse is all very fun, I've got a whacky proposal: How about properly enforcing the laws we already have on the books. I've asked this before, but how badly do you have to flout the laws we've already got (i.e. concerning serving intoxicated persons) before you lose you liquor license?
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I'm told it was far worse in the days of six o'clock closing.
I owned a busy licensed venue which was trading during the transition from 3am closing to 24 hour licensing. When the law changed we rushed out to get our extension (I think it was about 94) and were given a 24 hour license without much problem as we were told we were on a well-behaved list kept by the police and licensing folks. We decided to go to 6am nightly (and no more) and rubbed our hands in glee at the idea of all that extra turnover.
The problem for most clubs is that they need to do a whole week's business in two nights a week (Weds and Thurs are simply hit and miss and often don't break even but you have to do them to remain credible with your crowd), so to be able to extend that bill paying window from 8 hours a week to 14 hours a week was very attractive.
But the reality was that the bar take simply didn't change much...people came out later, and stayed longer but drank the same. Where we made money was by getting more people wandering through and paying the door charge but it was minimal compared to the wage bill.
But it was very much a more controllable, more pleasant crowd who had longer to drink pretty much the same amount and it meant you were offering a pretty decent value for the dollars paid on the door which made people happier to pay it. It made our lives easier.
Of course none of this did anything to prevent the real drunkeness that plagued (and still plagues) Auckland's CBD...the after work power drinkers who roam the inner city legless by 9pm
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Best new convenience product? Taste of India's new range of microwaveable punnets, which includes some very tasty vegetarian curries as well as beef, lamb and chicken options. Instant rice sachets still suck, though.
This is why the Food Show blows. Most of the stuff being sold isn't food however loosely one defines it.
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Six o'clock closing was daft but there was only a few drunks visible staggering home after 6.
I'm not saying these things are related, but last year my mother walked me through a verbal tour of the pubs of Timaru and where which groups went to drink after hours. She and her naval fiance drank in the same pub the cops frequented.
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Haven't read the whole report yet. I'll write something once I have, but in the meantime, some observations about my old boss.
He's not being at all prescriptive. The whole tone of the report is to invite debate, with these ideas as starting points.
Secondly, I understand the impression people get of someone out of touch, but he's not. He's a decent, fair-minded man, who is not in the least lofty away from a microphone. He also likes a drink.
Third, spend a bit of time at A and E tonight - or in a cop car - if you want to see what he's getting at.
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I have hazy recollections of very different crowds at The Hydro and at The Grosvenor back in the early/mid 70's, but that's the full extent of my Timaru drinking. (Apart from the time I was stranded in Timaru after sneaking out for a wee kip and all the others went back to Twizel in the van without bothering to find/wake me. I forget what hotel we were staying in...)
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This is why the Food Show blows. Most of the stuff being sold isn't food however loosely one defines it.
I would debate that, although it's true that fresh fruit and vegetables don't fit the format (I'm looking forward to the Grey Lynn farmer's market for that).
I like to cook, but sometimes I don't have the time or energy, so good-quality convenience foods do interest me. A good dahl that I can pop in the microwave for lunch suits me well.
Ditto the array of sauces and seasonings at the Food Show. The new Furikake kelp seasonings by Pacific Harvest are very nice.
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One of the best things I've bought this year was a Sodastream machine.
Have you tried putting milk through it? Go on, do it. Now. More fun than Mentos and Diet Coke.
Also, elderflower cordial is magical.
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I was just pleased to see Geoffrey Palmer back, since my uni days he's been my favourite politician. A gent & a scholar.
I bought a soda stream to make soda water, but one of my faves is to add Buderim Ginger refresher. It's not too sweet and hey presto your own gingery beer type concoction. Elderflower sounds lovely too though, will have to give that a go.
Ta for the music too. I've been enjoying the new Manics album Journal for Plague Lovers. For anyone who felt The Holy Bible was their meisterwork, it's a brilliant Kapow! from Nicky Wire & crew.
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