Hard News: Friday Gold: An email exchange with Michael Laws
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what did you think of The Name of the Rose ?
Connery and Slater were great.
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oh my god. focault's pendulum. Completely crosseyed after that one.....and it took me 2 months......
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Does anyone actually have a mayor they wholeheartedly approve of?
If we had council leaders indirectly elected by a majority of councillors, they'd have to have the confidence of a wider section of opinion and not just be the person who could start the biggest bandwagon.
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Foucault's Pendulum
Isn't that all plagiarised from The Da Vinci Code?
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Heh...
So, when can we start the book club? I have a whole thing about The Name of the Rose and Foucault's Pendulum and the limits of interpretation but I can't express it in fewer than three thousand words and I need a captive audience. By which I mean actual abductees, I'm not speaking metaphorically.
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Prejudice against the rural poor is legitimate in our society
Rural poor? Or rural stupid? The mechanism of how Whanganui and similar places get their redeckness is typically that the town has no culture or interesting work, so people with a brain leave as soon as they can. Which of course self-perpetuates.
Mind you, I just visited some towns in rural California that were nice places inhabited by nice middle class Democrats. How did that happen? Well, when the mines died, there was no welfare, so the ex-miners had to leave or starve. Hence the rednecks got flushed, and the town got populated by middle-class liberals with dollars and hobby businesses. Ironic, really?
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Rural poor? Or rural stupid? The mechanism of how Whanganui and similar places get their redeckness is typically that the town has no culture or interesting work, so people with a brain leave as soon as they can. Which of course self-perpetuates.
Kindly substitute New Zealand for Whanganui and observe what an offensive argument that is. Although I suppose since you're currently in England maybe not.
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I enjoyed reading this, I like where you're coming from Giovanni.
Laws must be the least self-aware person I've ever come across. Apart from calling putting the 'h' in Wanganui "racist"
yeah. If he still had his debating head screwed on he'd avoid the race card and play up the antidemocratic angle.
Seems to me this whole kerfuffle is just another case of a small country grabbing attention by getting every whucking cartographer on the planet to revise and reissue.
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o, beaten to it....again.
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/2879825/Laws-Sharples-doesn-t-get-democracy
regardless of however much character assassination quenches the nation's thirst. The fact is that if the national Geographic board wanted to come and change my name to Tark Maslov despite me unanimously voting to keep the staus quo I'd probably be pretty angry too, and my vitriol has been known to dredge filthier depths than 'jerk, jerk, jerk'.
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a small country grabbing attention
Part of growing up as a nation, perhaps. And of a whimpering fear-filled backlash against the inevitability of our nation's increasingly young and brown face, and of the sheer variety of faces and voices (and possibilities).
How can we support the scared without disowning our future?
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While that was beautifully written Sasha, I think we're forgetting that our nation's name is a mispelling of Zeeland.
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Foucault's Pendulum
Isn't that all plagiarised from The Da Vinci Code?
Well played, Sir.
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The fact is that if the national Geographic board wanted to come and change my name to Tark Maslov despite me unanimously voting to keep the staus quo I'd probably be pretty angry too,
The thing is, the geographical board has simply stated what they think the name of the town ought to be according to the kind of considerations that fall within the purvey of a geographical board. They're not supposed to poll the preference of the populace or empowered to do anything other than advise the government on this matter. Now it's up to Williamson to come up with a way of implementing that suggestion, and conceivably there could be a double name or other ways to accommodate the will of the locals. It seems to me (and I may be wrong, I didn't follow it quite that closely) that it's Laws who jumped the gun on this, for obvious reasons of political gain. But he's open to the double name solution himself, and it may yet end up that way.
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Foucault's Pendulum
Isn't that all plagiarised from The Da Vinci Code?
Yeah, and The Name of the Rose is a rip-off of the Brother Cadfael series.
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I think we're forgetting that our nation's name is a mispelling of Zeeland.
Well put, Tark.
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That's like our style man y'know...
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They're not supposed to poll the preference of the populace or empowered to do anything other than advise the government on this matter.
o ture bro? thanks for mentioning that, I haven't been following to closely, I just noticed a lot of 'h's started appearing in all the wrong places and I don't even particularly like 'h' nor do i like Mr Laws, but I like some people from Wanganui so I thought i'd weigh in.
increasingly young and brown face, and of the sheer variety of faces and voices (and possibilities).
How can we support the scared without disowning our future?
I think we could offer more than an 'h' to the 'brown faces'.
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I think keeping it as Wanganui is better in that the original Iwi pronounced it W'anganui, and outsiders pronounced it Whanganui. The way things are with river being spelt with the 'h' seems truer to the original thing.
But if that variety isn't enough for you Sacha, perhaps you could get behind me and my buddy Tom's movement to revert Timaru to 'Te Tihi-o-Maru'.
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our nation's name is a mispelling of Zeeland
The perils of having more than one thread about the same topic.
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Ha ha, i'm clearly behind the times. Still, join our movement?
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I think we could offer more than an 'h' to the 'brown faces'.
For sure. And I need to hear more about the whole flag issue. Seen some saying the Maori Party are being bought off with symbolic baubles but that often seems like sour grapes from Labourites, without more context.
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Insufficiently motivated by Timaru. However, there are a couple of suitably connected folk hereabouts.
(candyman)
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For sure. And I need to hear more about the whole flag issue. Seen some saying the Maori Party are being bought off with symbolic baubles but that often seems like sour grapes from Labourites, without more context.
Yeah, not a week goes by when I don't contemplate the flag, last month was partial to a b/w version of the Canadian with a fern replacing the maple leaf, this month been thinking more about the some way to iconize the shape of the land, perhaps even turning the flag portrait wise so all poles had to hang off the sides of buildings and could be used for impromptu exercise ala chin ups and more advanced parallel bar work.
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O, right in my area: Te-oha-a-Maru, Te Tihi-a-Maru, me Te-umu-kaha...BUT, while a lot of Kai Tahu know about this, we're not paticularly fussed about the regular useages - you see, Oamaru, Timaru, and Temuka still have meaning, and the olds were notorious for breathing (rather than enunciating) last or internal vowels (and also deeply relished sound wordplay)- I was reliably informed by a very old & respected taua, that, in her childhood Akaroa (Whangaroa elsewhere) was pronounced "ark ror"
-new-sealand- hell, played with that idea quarter of a century ago - but ANZ will do just fine by me-
flag issues?
This could be whole new thread-
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