Hard News: History is now
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Nope, the current copyright thread is at 36 pages, and the Veitch thread and the abortion thread went longer. But none got this big this quickly.
It took the copyright thread a month to get this long.
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You guys went on about copyright for 36 pages? Scmopyright. Copywrong. Copyleft. Nuff sed.
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Posting in an epic thread
[only Sam will get this]
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Heard the Obamas Law Professor from Harvard, say that Illinois has given the US two great Presidents, Lincoln and Obama - both skinny guys. He also said that as students it was Michelle he expected to be running for executive office, with Barack maybe making the best Mayor - interesting.
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Georgia has just been uncalled - they forgot to count 600k provisional ballots! And in mostly liberal areas. They're not likely to swing the Prez count, but extremely likely to push Chambliss under 50%, which means that he and Martin will have a runoff election.
Holy Shit! How do you forget 600K votes!!!
McCain 1,945,536 53%
Obama 1,706,574 46%That's not a huge difference, y'know (not that it matters)
But in the Senate Race, Martin could actually win, getting more than 50% but he'd have to get nearly all of them (around 450K) and I don't think that's likely. And he'll need 350K just to force Chambliss below the threshold.
I'm not sure if that's a good thing, as Chambliss has actually been a good senator, by all accounts, but it would sure help the Dems in the Senate.
I think you're right, though and it will be a run-off.
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Gotta say that a gay marriage ban in California is looking likely.
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And... she could choose herself, too.
Top dog in a small pond or Mrs Palin goes to Washington? I think the Senate would eat her alive and she'll become like the crazy lady who wants Congress investigated for Unamerican activities
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Texas has a really interesting breakdown
Forgive me this county-based minutiae rant - personal ties to these places - but I liked looking at the map for Texas: Houston (Harris County), Austin (Travis County), Dallas (Dallas County, duh) and San Antonio (Bexar County) are all blue, being filled as they are with African-Americans, students, godless heathen urbanites and Teh Gayz - but look at those border counties down the bottom there! The Latin@ vote out in force for Obama? Plus Beaumont (Jefferson County, on the right) making an Obama run too? I'm pretty stoked about the movement to the Dems in Texas. They've gained several percent since 2004.
Urban areas in Louisiana are blue too. Unsurprisingly, poor folks in New Orleans would rather not be abandoned to their fate in future hurricanes.
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Heard the Obamas Law Professor from Harvard, say that . . . it was Michelle he expected to be running for executive office, with Barack maybe making the best Mayor . . .
I guess a law professor would know more about these things than onetime Warner Brothers studio head Jack Warner, who seems to have seen suitability for political office in terms of casting. When asked what he thought of Reagan's running for Governor of California he was supposed to have said, 'No, Jimmy Stewart for governor. Ronald Reagan for his best friend.'
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Where'd you get that from Graeme?
CNN have a 52% yes vote with 86% counted
I'm not seeing enough leeway there for the vote to change that radically
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Heard the Obamas Law Professor from Harvard, say that . . . it was Michelle he expected to be running for executive office, with Barack maybe making the best Mayor . . .
Funny how things work out. I've got a photocopy of a <i>New Yorker</i> piece -- must be almost ten years old about the prospects for the sibling Governors of Texas and Florida. And almost everyone says they expected Jeb Bush to be the one who followed his father into the White House. But that's what prevents politics from being differental calculus -- people never quite do what they're expected to.
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Danielle, I agree, I was surprised and pleased to see as much blue as there was
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I've been really impressed by Michell Obama in this campaign. That's one smart woman and I'd be frightened to steal any food from her plate ;-)
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Funny how things work out.
The Obamas law professor was taking the piss, btw. Like Barbara said: Lincoln and Obama, both skinny.
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/Michell /Michell__e__
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Damn it's late and I have a meeting in the am.
Thanks to everyone for a great time today, and (like Che) props to CNN for a great website and minute level of detail, even if they lied about the hologram.
It's nice watching history happen and not have to be appalled for once ;-)
Nighty-night
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We had fireworks in Wellington to celebrate Obama's win
Auckland too - still going, damn patriots.
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Gotta say that a gay marriage ban in California is looking likely.
This is the downside. Locally, and propositionwise, everything is looking very conservative.
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Are you sure about that, Giovanni?
It wasn't that far back, about 80 years, that the state chose the two senators, in theory by selected by the state legislature, in practice often by the governor. The 17th Amendment changed that but the governor still has the power to chose a replacement for a vacant seat. Go and rent a copy of Capra's Mr. Smith Goes to Washington....actually regardless of that, rent it anyway if you've not seen it as it's rather appropriate today
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Sorry Graeme, I mis-read your post. Yes, I agree
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Prop 8 latest:
Yes 5,163,908 52%
No 4,760,336 48%
95% of precincts reporting -
Do we have television in New Zealand?
Who needs them?
we were "the people perched around a radio", meaning we got the full speeches in both cases, unadulterated, and no flashy pictures to water down what the candidates were actually saying.
did you know that it's a tradition that a president *has* to have a dog? because "fur a man ta be ryte in the head, he's needs him a dawg" </texas accent>
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Did anyone else think Obama's speech was a bit lame? As in it could have been any speech during his campaign?
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Did anyone else think Obama's speech was a bit lame?
Not really -- in a sense, both Obama and McCain had to strike some pretty tricky tonal balances. When you've won, you want to take your victory lap while avoiding getting your gloat on. And when you've lost, you don't want to sound like a bitter pill.
Neither man exactly produced "I have a dream"/'We will fight them on the beaches"/"Four-score and seven years ago..." level oratory. But I don't think that's what was required.
And in either man's position, I'd probably have said "don't you people have homes to go to? I'm rooted - up the wooden steps to Bedfordshire I go."
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Sigh.
Prop 8's pretty much a sure bet, now. Not enough votes to pull it back from 4% ahead.
The joys (read idiocy) of being able to amend you constitution by a simple majority! Ah well, the demographic trends are fairly stark - old people voted overwhelmingly against, people under 30 voted overwhelmingly for. Put it on the ballot again in 5 or 10 years and they'll be able to repeal the amendment.
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