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Hard News: Media7: A new censor -- and a showdown for student media?

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  • Geoff Lealand,

    Oh, good. The topic is just the ticket for the vanload of my students I will be bringing up tomorrow.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2539 posts Report Reply

  • dave crampton,

    (Heather Roy’s VSM bill will return to Parliament next year for its third reading, despite her retirement)

    That’s if it doesn’t get passed *this* year
    http://exmss.org/vicepresidentsblog/2011/08/04/vsm-legislation-may-well-pass-this-year-after-all/

    welli • Since Jan 2007 • 144 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I think that story illustrates the degree of pressure from that particular group that was on Hastings in his job as Censor.

    Quite - but to be fair, Authur Everard got it in the neck from all sides. IMNSHO, it was a disgrace how he was effectively sacked by the Films Amendment Act's bullshit term limit on the office of Chief Censor.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Graeme Edgeler,

    (Heather Roy’s VSM bill will return to Parliament next year for its third reading, despite her retirement).

    I would have thought this year was more likely.

    Wellington, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 3202 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    I'd suggest that nowadays, people are offended by egregious sexism, homophobia and racism in the way that they used to be by "naughty words". Should the censor look at that sort of thing?

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Gaynor,

    (Heather Roy’s VSM bill will return to Parliament next year for its third reading, despite her retirement)

    I believe it will pass 31 August. They're onto the last clause of the committee stage, which they should complete on 17 August. Then the third reading will happen on the 31st (third reading can't happen on the same day as the committee stage).

    [Oops, using my partner's computer, this is actually Kyle Matthews]

    dunedin • Since Nov 2008 • 1 posts Report Reply

  • Nick Shand, in reply to Gaynor,

    I believe it will pass 31 August.

    As a former student president this is sad news indeed.

    Stripping universities of their self-funding student culture will neuter an effective training ground that has through the years provided many with unexpected opportunities for professionally formative education.

    Let us hope our students will find fun and creative ways to rise above the ponzi scheme our NZ higher education is becoming.

    auck • Since Aug 2008 • 79 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    Sorry this is OT but I've been away from the internet for 10 days and then I find this idiotic nonsense featured by Stuff. Robert Winston is a brilliant communicator and an expert in his field, and this reporter has been unable to restrain her sarcasm. Jesus wept.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3887 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Lilith __,

    Sorry this is OT but I’ve been away from the internet for 10 days and then I find this idiotic nonsense featured by Stuff. Robert Winston is a brilliant communicator and an expert in his field, and this reporter has been unable to restrain her sarcasm. Jesus wept.

    To be honest, I found Winston fairly grumpy too, and also had my questions marked as to whether they were worth answering. And his "get over it" commentary on the Treaty of Waitangi in that story was unedifying.

    We had a false start in the recording of the Media7 science special, and I actually changed my opening question second time around because he made it clear he didn't rate the first attempt -- in which I asked him to comment on a statement displayed in bold on the home page of his website, which seemed to be a mystery to him.

    So, yeah, I'm with the reporter on this one.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I found Winston fairly grumpy too

    Kind of my impression from the audience as well. I'm not sure having Professor Gluckman there as well helped since they seemed to be performing a bit for each other, like interviewing children who are showing off for each other rather than focussing on the questions.

    It also seemed as though he was not interested in engaging on the topic and instead preferred to shift to his own interests. Nothing unusual in that but in the end it felt less than it everyone hoped it would be.

    However, Mike Joy was a star and I thought the perspectives from the Maori scientists was interesting.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Oh that's interesting. And I agree his comment on the Treaty was unhelpful. I guess I felt the article was making his personality the issue when I wanted to hear what he had to say on the issues themselves. But maybe he was the wrong person to be asking.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3887 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I just stumbled on the Stuff story too. Seems rather impressed with himself, that man.

    Haven't watched Media7 yet. Did any curly disability questions pass muster?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Sacha,

    Seems rather impressed with himself, that man.

    Well he has reason to be.

    But it still doesn't seem to make him an easy interviewee.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4451 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    He only has reason to be within his fields of expertise. Sadly he seems to believe that IVF being one of them means he knows more about disability than he does. Or that being interviewed often or delivering scripted TV shows makes him a journalism expert.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Lilith __,

    I thought the Media 7 science special was a very interesting show, but curiously I think the Winston-and-Gluckman segment was the least interesting part. For all that Winston said about not talking down to the audience, he was far more self-important than anyone else there. Mike Joy was wonderful, and Pauline Harris was also a stand-out for me. It's so great to see clever, distinguished people who also come across as regular Kiwis.

    Dunedin • Since Jul 2010 • 3887 posts Report Reply

  • Lisa Black,

    I read Winston's comment on the Treaty situation as wondering why on earth the Treaty should be an issue after all this time, and I'm inclined to agree.

    170 years of ballsing it up, I mean, really... It's not that hard to do the right thing, and our governments haven't on a quite spectacular scale. Not to mention the ongoing racism as exemplified in the licence plate auction comments on Trade Me. (Don't worry, I linked to the Dom Post story not the ugly Trade Me comments).

    Wellington • Since Jul 2010 • 71 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Calder,

    I hesitate to say a bad word about Sir Peter Gluckman because I so approve of his recent agitation for increasing spending on (poor, brown) mothers and young children so we won't have to spend money on putting the kids in jail about 19 years later but he and Winston have much in common in terms of pomposity and incredulity that anyone would want to question their wisdom. I vividly remember interviewing a representative of the Wellcome Trust, a research funder with a direct connection to a pharmaceuticals company which has now merged with Glaxo Smith Kline. I asked the [extraordinarily obvious] question about what problems might be implied by the model in which drug companies funded scientific research and Gluckman, who was in the room, gave me a vigorous dressing-down for having been so rude to someone who had come all this way to talk to a worm like me etc etc. I had the flu, so - to my endless regret - I lacked the presence of mind or balls or both to tell him to f**k off and let me do my job ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 66 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Peter Calder,

    You know, this will probably seem slight & slighting BUT
    I really distrust anyone who is stupid/gullible/or greedy enough to accept a title.
    Reguardless of the kind of title they've accepted (and believe you me, as patron of the Republican movement in ANZ but also as someone who studied heraldry and can tell you the difference between your lion tongue d'or or rouge, most of them dont really know the difference between their varying degrees of knighthood) they ALL think
    a)they deserve it
    b)it makes 'em better than the rest of us.

    I will die happily when ANZ is a republic, and we dont have people rolling over for crappy UK titles.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • JLM, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    Seems rather impressed with himself, that man.

    Well he has reason to be.

    But it still doesn’t seem to make him an easy interviewee.

    He obviously prefers the sort of soft and worshipful interview that Jim Mora gave him on 8 months to Mars

    Judy Martin's southern sl… • Since Apr 2007 • 240 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    And another excellent Media 7 taping last night and my eleven students enjoyed the experience.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2539 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Lisa Black,

    (Don’t worry, I linked to the Dom Post story not the ugly Trade Me comments).

    Some of the comments are the expected Kiwiblurg stuff but some are gold.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    Kind of my impression from the audience as well.

    Well I did think he came across as grumpy, but being closely aligned to one Brit, I often see how him being more direct does get misinterpreted and I mean often.So,I'm now going out on a limb and suggesting a) He may have been jetlagged and b) he may have seen the segment that Jose contributed as being a bit of a mockery.The images put up of him with what looked like guts and the comments on sperm, did not for a serious talk make. He actually then had the conversation about how he didn't like the "blowing up stuff" imagery that is so common now in productions and I'm sure he noticed that amongst the imagery of himself. I now reckon the guy is just lacking in a sense of humour, but he may have felt insulted that he was made light of. I will ask our friend, and his, and Sir Peter's, about it tonight . Could be interesting....or not. :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Islander,

    To be fair, Islander, not all people who recieve titles are like that. My Dad never thought he was better than anyone else, he mostly thought it was very funny, but he did appreciate the recognition, I think. And since his death, my mother very rarely uses her title.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Jackie Clark,

    Jackie – it was a generalist statement – and I didnt realise your Dad was a recipient of a title. I had just associated him with a certain excellent ANZ company, and not looked further. Because that was his crowning glory...

    My comment maybe should’ve been prefixed with “In my experience….”
    because that is surely the case with almost all of the 'knights', 'dames' etceteras that I have encountered.

    Quite a few of 'em actually.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Ok it was suggested, Winston was not jetlagged. He is serious.and I think to them, it seems unreasonable if one doesn't gettit/ not understand. I get the impression both Winston and Gluckman are on a scientific plane that is what it is and it is what it is.There is no need to make an impression. They actually are what you get.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

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