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  • Hadyn Green,

    10% of us have a blog -- that's 400,000 blog nutters

    I thought was 10% of the 78% who used the internet, which is closer to 300,000. But that's total nitpicking.

    I was impressed with Pasifika blogging at 12%, twice that of Pakeha.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    morena, Russell. I have just been running off the NZH story on the survey, to use with my students this morning. The Report may be more restrained than the NZH report but it would be interesting to know a little more about the research method. It seems to have been a phone survey. Was it using land-lines, or did it include cell-phones owners? This is emerging as a real constraint on research accuracy.

    Probably need to look at the sample size too. The Nielsen Online 2008 survey, for example, report that 54% of New Zealand households are broadband connected. This is 12% below the figure mentioned in the NZH story. Which figure should we trust more?

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2558 posts Report Reply

  • Ray Gilbert,

    I found it interesting the 12% of Pasifika internet users had a blog compared to 6% of Pakeha and only 2% of Maori. While there may be an effect of the average age it's still a large amount of "bloggers".

    Since Nov 2006 • 104 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    __10% of us have a blog -- that's 400,000 blog nutters__

    I thought was 10% of the 78% who used the internet, which is closer to 300,000. But that's total nitpicking.

    But you're right nonetheless.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    I found it interesting the 12% of Pasifika internet users had a blog compared to 6% of Pakeha and only 2% of Maori. While there may be an effect of the average age it's still a large amount of "bloggers".

    There's a comment in there somewhere about Maori and Pasifika people being less likely to have internet access, but going for social media boots 'n' all when they did have it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Probably need to look at the sample size too. The Nielsen Online 2008 survey, for example, report that 54% of New Zealand households are broadband connected. This is 12% below the figure mentioned in the NZH story. Which figure should we trust more?

    Probably Nielsen, whose figures (I think) come from its rolling household media survey.

    The methodology section of the WIP report says it was taken from a random sample of up to 1200 NZers, 12+ nationwide. They oversampled Māori, Pasifika, Asian and under 16s for a total sample of 1529, then dropped the under 16s to align with the other international datasets for an "achieved sample" of 1430.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22834 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    While there may be an effect of the average age [of Pasifika internet users] it's still a large amount of "bloggers".

    Oohh, I hadn't thought of that. Good point.

    Dumb question: was it 12% of Pasifika were bloggers or 12% of bloggers were Pasifika? (the report is giving me gyp to download at the moment)

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Asians...4 billion people....

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2281 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    Ha!
    "What effect would it have on you if you lost internet access?"
    61% said it would be a "problem".

    I wonder how many would've actually said: "I would run around the house screaming"

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Amy Gale,

    Data point: one "very elderly" (over 90) NZ person of my acquaintance stopped using the internet when his eyesight got too bad.

    People are going to land in different places when figuring tradeoffs for acquiring/learning accessibility tools. Two possible factors for very elderly people are that they have spent a smaller percentage of their lives addicted to being online, and don't have employability concerns to factor in.

    tha Ith • Since May 2007 • 471 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    As I perused the report I was exploring the ethnicity effects. Pasifika seemed to have a high interaction with the internet (used it more often and for more things and it would be a big problem if they lost it) yet they also had the highest rates of interaction with family and friends.

    In fact overall, internet users socialised with friends and family more often than non-users. This may be affected by age and region but is still an interesting finding as it goes against the basement dwelling internet user stereotype.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    In fact overall, internet users socialised with friends and family more often than non-users.

    doesn't surprise me. anecdotal stuff i've gleaned from blogs suggests that people only use facebook to stay in touch with people (or play scrabulous).

    tweet gives me a bigger insight into people's ways of thinking than say, sinking booze with them. if you know what i mean.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • danduran,

    How many of those think updating their Facebook/Bebo status is 'blogging', though? I often seem to run into people who don't even know what a blog is, so the figure seems suspiciously high.

    Auckland • Since May 2008 • 9 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Williams,

    With Rodney Hide stoking up both a privileges committee case and – possibly by week’s end a Serious Fraud Office investigation - the evidence may ultimately receive formal evaluation, but don’t hold your breath. Add together the inbuilt deficiencies of the privileges process, the effects of the old and porous rules on political donations, the constraints of lawyer/client privilege, and the fact that the potential for prosecutions expired long ago …and keep in mind that the search for truth is being refracted through the myriad personality traits of Winston Peters, Wayne Peters, Brian Henry and Sir Robert Jones…and any investigator would be quailing at the prospect.

    What an excellent piece of writing (from the Scoop item RB linked to)! Is Campbell's departure why the Listener is going down hill (as I'm told but haven't verified)?

    Sydney • Since Nov 2006 • 2273 posts Report Reply

  • Hadyn Green,

    How many of those think updating their Facebook/Bebo status is 'blogging', though?

    Further digging reveals that Pasifika have higher rates of using social networking sites and other evidence (that I don't have a link for, or even the document) suggests that they like to use Bebo.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2090 posts Report Reply

  • Bob Munro,

    Yes what a great piece by Gordon Campbell. It was so authoritative I started to believe it was me who had the dates wrong until I double-checked the Calendar. :)

    Christchurch • Since Aug 2007 • 418 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Eade,

    "What an excellent piece of writing (from the Scoop item RB linked to)! Is Campbell's departure why the Listener is going down hill (as I'm told but haven't verified)?"

    The story should get bigger. Let's talk about the long and very recent history of secret Trust Funds now we've opened up Winiies.. Let's find out who traditionally who backs who? It would be very educating and would be great for our democracy.

    It should be noted that owen glenn, bob jones and the fishing family
    seem to have survived the public outing.

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Eade,

    "Was it using land-lines, or did it include cell-phones owners? This is emerging as a real constraint on research accuracy."

    polling?

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    evidence (that I don't have a link for, or even the document) suggests that they like to use Bebo.

    you could put that down to "chain migration" onto an application. much like danah boyd's theory on hi/lo educational splits between facebook/myspace.

    i.e. the avant garde in a social group establishes a preference for an application (for whatever reason), and it becomes the norm within that social cluster.

    </researcher che>

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Shep Cheyenne,

    Ha!
    "What effect would it have on you if you lost internet access?"
    61% said it would be a "problem".

    I wonder how many would've actually said: "I would run around the house screaming"


    - I didn't run, I walked briskly & I didn't scream, I just went over and talked to my concerned neighbours as we all came out into the street during a poweroutage yesterday.

    Since Oct 2007 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    actually... speaking of boyd's work, i'd be interested to know the demographic breakdown of pa system and kiwiblog readers, and especially commenters.

    i've a sneaking suspicion that educational levels and gender are well skewed over at kiwiblog, and *slightly* more even here.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    a sneaking suspicion that educational levels and gender are well skewed over at kiwiblog, and *slightly* more even here.

    I don't know how skewed (or screwed?) my gender is but I do agree that this is an educated readership here. It is all about niche audiences, I guess, and the general lack of a satisfying space for debate in the mainstream media (or 'The Public Sphere', as Habermas might argue*). In my particular case, I have come this way as a result of a growing disgust with the NZ Herald.

    * thus confirming our pointy-headiness?

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2558 posts Report Reply

  • Shep Cheyenne,

    Sorry thread jack

    Christchurch has a bit to offer the Court Pages today.
    -Sex Slaving charges to a 57yr old madam whos name is suppressed but wa previously published.
    -Bottle Bombers jailed, the last of the 3 dry ice idiots
    -Dr convictedon historical rape charge 15yrs later on a then 7yr old.

    Interesting ol day at the Courts tody.

    Back ontrack now.

    Since Oct 2007 • 927 posts Report Reply

  • Che Tibby,

    heh. habermas would be comfortable with the idea of multiple, overlapping public spheres, one for here, one for kiwiblog. something like the nzh wouldn't qualify however, you need a discursive structure and a newspaper is just a distributive mechanism masquarading as discourse.

    but, if we were having this conversation on kiwiblog, i would actually be saying, "look! bikini picture! whoaaaaar". but that's ok, because there are no girls in the room to moderate my randyness.

    the back of an envelope • Since Nov 2006 • 2042 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Eade,

    "i've a sneaking suspicion that educational levels and gender are well skewed over at kiwiblog, and *slightly* more even here."

    I can't remember going to university but they sent me a degree one day so i must have , it's nice with big writing and a seal kind of thing on it .

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report Reply

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