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Hard News: So-called celebrity justice

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  • BenWilson,

    I'm not going to be comfortable being offline and travelling and not able to keep an eye on it.

    Can you temporarily close it? Or turn full moderation on? Interested in the options available, I know this site is custom , baby.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10576 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Bring back Harry!

    Chris Harris that is...not Prince Harry...to Afghanistan.

    Te Ika-a-Māui • Since Mar 2008 • 2254 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Can you temporarily close it? Or turn full moderation on? Interested in the options available, I know this site is custom , baby.

    I actually only got the ability to close a thread with the recent upgrade -- it's amazing we've got this far without really desperately needing it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22584 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    I actually only got the ability to close a thread with the recent upgrade -- it's amazing we've got this far without really desperately needing it.

    I guess you've had the ability to delete accounts forever, though? That fist in the glove has been enough, along with warnings, to do what DPF has never managed to achieve with every funky technology that he has tried to throw at the problem.

    Shows me one of the things I struggle to convey to management all the time - sometimes it's better to have fewer features, and just teach users to use them properly.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10576 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Closing threads can be really annoying, not here though and I agree with the idea behind the closing of this one even if that is only because of "Who the fuck really cares and why does anybody feel they need to know" etc.
    Geekzone closes threads as a matter of course if nobody has replied to that thread for 30 days which is really annoying for those looking for a solution to a technical problem. Grrr.
    </pointless comment>

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Clarke,

    sometimes it's better to have fewer features, and just teach users to use them properly.

    Agreed, but it's often easier to change the software than the wetware ;)

    -36.76, 174.61 or thereab… • Since Nov 2006 • 164 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic,

    But the funny thing is, according to a Metropolitan Police internal report released earlier this year they're fuck all use in actually clearing crimes.

    Too right. There's just no substitute for cops on the beat - CCTV should be supplementary to cops, not an outright replacement for them. Some people need reminding that 1984 is a novel, not a training manual.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5399 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    they're doing it so you should too Russell, c'mon how lame is that for an argument, about as lame as you be our case law guinea pig Russell and I'll stay hidden behind my oh-so-rebellious persona

    This.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1609 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Agreed, but it's often easier to change the software than the wetware ;)

    Indeed. Although usually changing the software forces a wetware upgrade across all installations. Helpdesks notice this.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10576 posts Report Reply

  • Rachel Prosser,

    A Home Office spokeswoman said CCTVs "help communities feel safer".

    Oh... that's OK then. Appearance trumps reality, again.

    It isn't quite that simple. I used to work in the London Borough of Southwark, and one of our targets was to cut both crime and the fear of crime.

    The fear of crime can, taken overall, have a more debilitating effect on quality of life than overall than crime itself, and affect more people, create more adverse effects.

    If you are afraid of being mugged and never go out your quality of life is affected. If there are fewer people about, there are fewer people around to help out.

    Also, the cameras our part of London were monitored - I've been in the Southwark control room and there are people monitoring, moving between screens, stopping to zoom in on something suspicious but you can't watch every screen all the time.

    There were also policies for when a police officer could come in, and ask the cameras be directed to something specific, and the field of view of cameras were restricted so that they couldn't peer into someone's bedroom and focussed on private spaces.

    It was part of our policies under RIPA - the Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, and the Safer Southwark Partnership.

    Christchurch • Since Mar 2008 • 228 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    At a cost of £8.5 million, Nexus have installed the UK’s largest and most complex digital
    colour CCTV system which provides continuous monitoring and recording at Metro and
    bus stations all day and every day.

    Ref

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    The fear of crime can, taken overall, have a more debilitating effect on quality of life than overall than crime itself, and affect more people, create more adverse effects.

    I agree. Too many people in our community suffer needlessly from the fear of crime, just because of the actions of a callous few who place their own selfish needs above those of the community.

    That's why I'm asking you to donate generously to my new charity, whose aim is to counsel victims of irresponsible reporting in the New Zealand Herald: the Sensible Sentences Trust.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3121 posts Report Reply

  • dubmugga,

    Breaking the law is a personal choice we all have but breaking it when someone else could end up wearing the punishment is a different kettle of fish...

    ...about as lame as you be our case law guinea pig Russell and I'll stay hidden behind my oh-so-rebellious persona

    no one broke any laws dahlin' , just the house rules and the apology was accepted for it, so thanx for your belated opinion, much appreciated...

    ...fight the power:p

    Don't you just love it when A. Nonymous takes a "do what I say, don't say what I do" approach to transparency, accountability and personal responsibility?

    oooh are you THE craig ranapia, can i have your autograph ?

    why does russell not trust the kids when the teacher is out of the room ?...way to treat us like grown ups fella :)

    i suppose the big question now is, will the artist in question man up, out himself and take the hit ?

    the back of your mind • Since Nov 2006 • 257 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    The fear of crime can, taken overall, have a more debilitating effect on quality of life than overall than crime itself, and affect more people, create more adverse effects.

    If you are afraid of being mugged and never go out your quality of life is affected. If there are fewer people about, there are fewer people around to help out.

    Rachel: Fair point well made. But I'd also have to say that David Davis had a fair point in the story I linked to: Would having more, and better resourced, cops on the beat be a more effective use of the massive amounts of money that are poured into maintaining and monitoring CCTV cameras? I was in Melbourne the weekend of the AFL Grand Final and Police has put a huge effort into getting cops on the streets, booze buses on the road, and the word out that they'd be around. It really did make a difference.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    Being in Christchurch the CCTV capital of NZ, we thought, or they were sold, as a part solution to the murders etc of Prostitutes from along Manchester St.
    It hasn't.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report Reply

  • dubmugga,

    ahhh...but how many more prostitutes would have been murdered if the cameras weren't there ?

    i've always thought it'd be better if all city cameras were open access. let the public watch themselves and be all narky vigilant on the crime buzz...

    the back of your mind • Since Nov 2006 • 257 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Would having more, and better resourced, cops on the beat be a more effective use of the massive amounts of money that are poured into maintaining and monitoring CCTV cameras?

    That's a difficult question. When you think about how many cameras you can put up for 24/7, with recording, compared to one police officer available for 40 hours a week. 20? 30 maybe. Depends how closely they get monitored I guess.

    It's probably a case of horses for courses. There's probably the front of some pubs and social gathering areas where the cameras are great value. Other places, 50 cameras isn't as good as a cop with a brain.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Morgan Nichol,

    An even better approach than cops on the beat is no lead in petrol or paint, free access to well resourced education and healthcare, ready access to mental health care, and open access to abortions & free/cheap contraceptives.

    Well, all of those and a bit of hope of course.

    Or perhaps raising the drinking age to about 45.

    In any case, if it's about saving prostitutes is probably not such a big deal anywhere outside of Christchurch. What the fuck is going on with the men in Canterbury? Seriously.

    Auckland CBD • Since Nov 2006 • 313 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    Morgan, Christchurch is very much a Service City for the Rural hinterland. This aspect of life has always been present here.

    The relationship between Police & Prostitutes is at an all time high, despite Constable Connolly.

    Christchurch is one of the safest Cities in NZ. As long as you're not engaged in the drug/sex industries.

    Many people believe the unsolved murder has infact been solved but will not be prosecuted.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report Reply

  • dubmugga,

    What the fuck is going on with the men in Canterbury? Seriously.

    i've heard churtown called the whitest city in the world where even the maoris are white...

    ...gene pool is too shallow i reckon. too much keeping the bloodlines pure except for ngai tahu of course :)

    the back of your mind • Since Nov 2006 • 257 posts Report Reply

  • bob daktari,

    on the subject of CCTV - CCTV is the future of television... now thats what we call reality vol 345

    Members of the public could earn cash by monitoring commercial CCTV cameras in their own home, in a scheme planned to begin next month.

    Public to monitor CCTV from home

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 537 posts Report Reply

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