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Hard News: The Big 2012 US Election PAS Thread

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  • Paul Campbell,

    Craig - I'm pretty sure he'll win the popular vote - most of California hasn't been counted yet

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2605 posts Report Reply

  • Andrew Geddis, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    I’m really fucking sick of hearing from people who should know better – not least Jon Johansson on One – that Obama won’t have a “real mandate” unless he wins the popular vote.

    Obama is going to win the popular vote - handily. The outstanding votes are in California/Oregon/Washington. He'll end up with a "mandate" of over a million votes in the popular vote.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2007 • 200 posts Report Reply

  • Andrew Geddis,

    Couple of fun House races involving "Tea Party" darlings to keep watching, while we wait for Romney to stop sulking and just concede so that Obama can give his victory speech ... Alan West is behind by a few hundred votes, while Michelle Bachmann is leading by a similarly small margin.

    Could be the cherry on the top of a quite pleasant evening (over here).

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2007 • 200 posts Report Reply

  • JonathanM,

    Obama's already ahead in the popular vote, and it's only going to get bigger now, yes.

    Since Jul 2012 • 64 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Obama is presiding over a predominately Republican House

    That is the thing I keep forgetting, it's like us having a separate vote for PM and, sort of, like Mayoral elections. Makes you wonder though about how the Repuglicans claim it was Obama failing to act eh?.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Andrew Geddis,

    He’ll end up with a “mandate” of over a million votes in the popular vote.

    But even if Obama doesn't, that's not actually how the United States elects a President. I'd really expect someone who lectures, writes and extensively comments on American politics to... you know, point that out.

    Michelle Bachmann is leading by a similarly small margin.

    If Tea Party pin up Bachmann -- who also outspent her Democrat opponent twelve to one -- loses her seat, I'm going to break the internet with schadentweets. You've been warned.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Miche Campbell,

    Romney just conceded.

    Dunedin • Since Feb 2011 • 79 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    I’d really expect someone who lectures, writes and extensively comments on American politics to… you know, point that out.

    Well I don’t do any of those things but I understand that the People vote for a bunch of other people (the electoral college) to do the actual vote for them and they don’t necessarily have to follow the Peoples choice, although I don’t think they have gone the other way in recent history. A safeguard to stop the People electing somebody who won’t do as they're told I suppose.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Bevan Shortridge,

    Whoever makes US flags of any size must do great business during elections

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 122 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Well I don’t do any of those things but I understand that the People vote for a bunch of other people (the electoral college) to do the actual vote for them and they don’t necessarily have to follow the Peoples choice, although I don’t think they have gone the other way in recent history. A safeguard to stop the People electing somebody who won’t do as they’re told I suppose.

    About half the states have laws that punish faithless electors.

    Since Sep 2009 • 444 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Apparently Sweet Tooth and the Sugar Babies are looking for a gig tonight...

    Some 5,000 people are expected at Romney's invitation-only gala at the Boston Convention and Exhibition Center.

    Boston-based cover band Sweet Tooth & the Sugarbabies has been booked to play the celebration and sliders and pretzels have been ordered to feed the hungry guests.

    'It’s a party, but we’re not trying to go over the top,' Will Ritter, Romney's director of advance planning, told the Globe.

    'This is where he gets introduced to the American people as a president, so we’re trying to keep this as stately as we can and still keep it a fun event.'

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood,

    Karl Rove was in shock

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1443 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood,

    I see the if x wins I'm moving to NZ page got mentioned in the Gaurdian live blog.

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1443 posts Report Reply

  • Jos,

    Almost makes Fox News worth watching!

    Whakatane • Since Jan 2012 • 877 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    What a speech. What a pleasure to hear and watch. Obama is the best orator I have have ever seen. Imagine if we had a man who could talk like that, he’d win in a landslide.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2210 posts Report Reply

  • Bevan Shortridge, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    If Tea Party pin up Bachmann -- who also outspent her Democrat opponent twelve to one -- loses her seat, I'm going to break the internet with schadentweets. You've been warned

    Politico.com has them at 50.0% each (77.9% reporting)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 122 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    Imagine if we had a man who could talk like that, he’d win in a landslide.

    Try imagining further - *any* ANZ politician, reguardless of gender 'who could talk like that" they'd win te mea te mea te mea-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Eade,

    Blue America.

    Blue State America. Gay (friendly) Blue. To think Rove used gay marriage to divide the country 10 years ago shows what a decade can bring in American politics.

    Now the congress has to work with Obama on jobs and financial regulation or else surely Obama has no option than to go ballistic on them in order to remove them by mid-terms. It will be a great second term if that congress gets sorted out and function able,because the Tea Party made it a house of apathy.

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report Reply

  • David Hood,

    In what is considered a genuine upset, Heidi Heitkamp (Dem) is ahead in the count (50.5%) with 98% counted in a race for a senate seat in North Dakota. 538 had been estimating an 8% chance for her (so about the same as Romney)

    Dunedin • Since May 2007 • 1443 posts Report Reply

  • Andrew Geddis, in reply to Bevan Shortridge,

    Politico.com has them at 50.0% each (77.9% reporting)

    Bachmann has a lead of 1700, with 81% reporting. But her lead has been slowly growing ... unless there's some precincts out there with lots of Democrat votes in them, she may survive.

    Alan West, however, has lost ... .

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2007 • 200 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    What a speech. What a pleasure to hear and watch. Obama is the best orator I have have ever seen.

    It was extraordinary. There were a number of familiar motifs in there, but it seemed born of conviction. The climactic message of diversity and inclusion -- with its historic shout-out to disabled citizens -- was powerful and moving. I cried at that point.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22747 posts Report Reply

  • Jos,

    Jeepers Russell!

    Whakatane • Since Jan 2012 • 877 posts Report Reply

  • Jeremy Eade, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Respect. As Tip ONeil said, politics is basically local. We need to rearrange a few things for some citizens and it's well overdue.

    auckland • Since Mar 2008 • 1112 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    I need another Caryota Palm to plant. Yay!

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    From rainy, sultry Wollongong. Wandered into a Myers store to find a wall of TV screens announcing Obama's victory. It was one fine moment.

    Generally, though, Australians seem more interested in a bloody horse race!

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2537 posts Report Reply

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