Hard News: The perils of political confidence
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Carol Stewart, in reply to
Yes, I saw most of it. An utterly bizarre poll result. I thought Brash was completely inept and floundering; Peters was very one-dimensional (perhaps that's the secret of his popularity,that his supporters have memory loss?), Harawira landed some good hits but sounded a bit scary on some topics; Turia was good although I was disappointed she wasn't prepared to bag John Key and his handling of the teacup thing, and Norman was calm and measured. Did I forget someone?
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
that would just such a blast to have Winston in with Mr Williams
Yeah, I'm sure it would - two barely competent, attention-seeking bigoted thugs for the price of one. Still, it might be amusing to see Mr. Williams get a short, sharp reality check that his abusive shenanigans at the North Shore City Council won't play in Wellington.
Only caught the last half hour. Did anyone else watch it?
Is it worth it? I'd rather spare my blood pressure Winston's ususal xenophobic populist bullshit unless it's strictly necessary.
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DexterX, in reply to
That is great.
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Signs o' the times, today in Christchurch.
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DexterX, in reply to
Classic
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Islander, in reply to
Phuqing choice!
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James Francis, in reply to
Peter Dunne. How could you forget Peter Dunne?
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NZ Herald 9.30 PM 16 Nov 2011 - Winston makes splash at debate
New Zealand First leader Winston Peters challenged Prime Minister John Key to be "a real bloke''
and
"Above all if he's going to be a bloke that has a beer with the boys and drinks out of the bottle how about being a real bloke and come clean and come share a bath with me."
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Steve Parks, in reply to
An utterly bizarre poll result.
Text message poll results such as this one would be flawed even if they were free. Given a 75 cent per text cost... doesn't even deserve to be called a poll.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Is it worth it?
Was rather interesting. Would have been even better if Gyon Espiner had just wanked Winnie's ego live on air, and used the time saved on letting the other leaders address actual questions. Which, to my great surprise, Harawira managed without coming across as a foaming nutcase. Norman, Turia, Dunne and Brash were solid enough - doubt they'll swing any votes their way but didn't pull a Herman Cain either,
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Steve Parks, in reply to
The widespread believe now is that it was planned, to, as Tracey Watkins puts it, drive a wedge between the public and the media.
If it’s a stunt, it’s a bloody risky one.
If it’s a stunt, it’s one Key handled ineptly. He really did come across very poorly during his ‘what I’m here to talk about’ performance at the media conference. I had exactly the same flashback as Martin Lindberg to the Ed Miliband interview.
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I wonder what if Winston and Banks had been, umm, reunited on the panel...
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Ha! You were there too Joe? If I'd known I would have said something. What was with the Winstonite? He seemed like an old lag at the rark-the-crowd-up thing?
Also, pretty impressed with the Alliance chap, and Kennedy Graham seemed good.
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that tea-drinking Key
I want to see what Key’s like after a few beers goddammit.
C’mon, prove you’re a real man, ya wuss!
Tea, pffft, whaddarya, going after Winston’s support base or summat? -
Joe Wylie, in reply to
What was with the Winstonite? He seemed like an old lag at the rark-the-crowd-up thing?
A self-declared small-g green too!
Just put his pic up, along with the others.I had hoped for a few snaps of the one who's becoming known as the Loch Ness Monster of the hustings, on account of how he's seldom seen. As the Baptist Hall is a single-level venue there was no risk of being thrown downstairs.
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Meanwhile, I thought Morning Report was supposed to be a quality news source.
Just listened to three party leaders – Goff, Brash and Peters – and not one policy related question.
If teapotgate is a “distraction” from “real issues”, perhaps National Radio could try focusing on its basic responsibility as a public broadcaster? This is beyond ridiculous and it can't all be put on Key.
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merc,
Man responsible for the hobbit law gets downed by a contractor working on spec, priceless.
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Roger Lacey, in reply to
I thought that National campaign ad was hinting I should go green.
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Meanwhile, I thought Morning Report was supposed to be a quality news source.
Just listened to three party leaders – Goff, Brash and Peters – and not one policy related question.
Labour did release its youth affairs policy yesterday, so I suppose that could have been discussed. Perhaps it will be later in the programme. They've been pretty good on that score.
National also released its trade policy, which was profoundly unsurprising apart from the volume of cheerleading for TPPA. Although Key fronted that.
But they're hardly going to ignore what has become the story of the 2011 campaign. Especially when the new Fairfax poll suggests it's really going titsup in Epsom.
If teapotgate is a “distraction” from “real issues”, perhaps National Radio could try focusing on its basic responsibility as a public broadcaster? This is beyond ridiculous and it can’t all be put on Key.
Peter Goodfellow withdrew from Morning Report today after promising to come on and talk about Epsom. He burped up what is now clearly the agreed line: that he was only interested in talking about "issues that are important to New Zealanders".
Yeah, well, funny he should be saying that to Radio New Zealand, whose policy Q&A was disgracefully snubbed by National.
And how odd that they won't talk about something they staged a media event about just last week. I have no sympathy whatsoever.
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Going up North for a while...
My ‘Holiday Highways to Nowhere’ poster...
...is there a "Mr Nowhere's Hawaii Holidays' poster too?
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A glazed eye repeating of the same spam-bot message probably seems a great idea to Steven Joyce, but to me it is starting to sound decided creepy. Clearly the National strategy is to simply refuse to go off-message and not engage with the media. The problem with that is John Key has to campaign and front-up to the media, but I assume the solution for that is for Joyce and the rest of the ninth floor comms team to get busy ringing around and threatening the various media outlets if they persist in not towing the line.
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merc,
http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/5981530/MPs-get-pay-rise-package-of-7000
They get paid well to answer questions, no matter how lame those questions may be. -
Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Oberon's envoy... the play's the thing...
Peter Goodfellow withdrew from Morning Report today after promising to come on and talk about Epsom
Could he be Robin Goodfellow's brother?
that shrewd and knavish sprite
Call'd Robin Goodfellow: are not you he
That frights the maidens of the villagery;
Skim milk, and sometimes labour in the quern
And bootless make the breathless housewife churn;
And sometime make the drink to bear no barm;
Mislead night-wanderers, laughing at their harm?
Those that Hobgoblin call you and sweet Puck,
You do their work, and they shall have good luck:
Are not you he?The Old English "puca" is a kind of half-tamed woodland sprite, leading folk astray with echoes and lights in nighttime woodlands, or coming into the farmstead and souring milk in the churn.
Puck's trademark laugh in the early ballads is "Ho ho ho."
enter Santa John <stage right>Which raises the question
- was 11/11/11 an inside job?
it has a whiff of deviltry... -
Craig Ranapia, in reply to
I have no sympathy whatsoever.
Fine – and the next time I hear someone from RNZ plaint that public broadcasting can’t get no respect, I’ll go squeeze a few tears out of the house crocodile too. There’s a difference between “ignoring the story” and actually making an editorial call that there’s other campaign news worth covering on a public broadcaster’s flagship news show nine days before the election.
National's trade policy might be a technicolour yawn to you, Russell, but it might just be not only relevant but pretty important to one or two Morning Report listeners. Ditto for the other policies that have gone unreported. A deliberate choice was made not to cover them and go TeaPot crazy.
Or does owning what you say and do only apply to politicians and commercial media?
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I knew there was something in the past I had seen that has that familar ring......
Seems that the same PR brigade is still active and spouting the same tactics.
Starts about 1-40 minutes in. Duncan Garner again........
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