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Hard News: Those were different times ...

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  • Sacha,

    there goes the neighbourhood

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Rich Lock,

    leave Babs aloooone!!!11!!!

    I won't y'know.

    I clicked the first link and Brigid said "Sounds like a drag show at Alfies - what is it?"

    The unfortunate thing (for me) about that was that those sorts of tunes were conflated with genuine groundbreakers like:

    (as an aside, the improvised electric piano solo - from Leon Huff - a couple of minutes in, is one of recorded music's greatest moments. Or so Herbie Hancock said and he's right)

    And - for our host:

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • recordari, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    "Sounds like a drag show at Alfies - what is it?"

    These are amongst my favourite teenage memories, so your point is? ;-)

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to 3410,

    reality check...

    That'll likely be your clock that's out, Ian

    <doh> ooops, you are right! I've been a.m. when I shoulda been p.m. or vice versa.
    ta for that...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    Brigid said "Sounds like a drag show at Alfies

    high five

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to recordari,

    These are amongst my favourite teenage memories

    I'm telling yer bro!

    Went to a police licensing meeting once at Central. All the clubs were there. The cops began berating Brett Shepherd who owned Alfies for - night after night - pouring 14 and 15 year olds back onto High Street legless. Shepherd launched into a tirade which went on for 45 minutes or more, accusing the cops of harassment, homophobia, gay bashing and very much more. The cops shrugged their shoulders and closed the meeting. Alfies continued on it's merry way, providing favourite teenage memories to many.

    I guess that's how it worked. Yummy, yummy, yummy.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • recordari, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    14 and 15

    I was older than that. Sweet (cough) mumble. It was the only place that we could get in. Well, I suppose I got into Zanzibar, Keeley's and Quay Street too.

    In the end, I just loved to dance...

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • George Darroch,

    Dropping this in, simply because it's such an excellent tune from 79, which I've been thrashing the last few days.

    The fact that it stands up to reworks is testament to the original.

    WLG • Since Nov 2006 • 2264 posts Report

  • Rich Lock,

    The unfortunate thing (for me) about that was that those sorts of tunes were conflated with genuine groundbreakers

    In the end, I just loved to dance

    We ain't no suit-wearing businessmen like you, Simon...you know we're just dancers I s'pose, and we want our pop funk beats.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report

  • recordari, in reply to Rich Lock,

    We ain't no suit-wearing businessmen like you, Simon

    FTR, today I'm wearing a suit. Sorry Rich. It's not white though, so there's that.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Jackie Clark,

    Oh, Disco. How I love you. I was about to accuse Simon of disco snobbery and then I recalled that a wee while ago, I bought 3 very cheap CDs of "disco songs" from the Warehouse, and when I ripped them onto my HD, I was appalled at myself. They were immediately relegated to the rubbish.

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report

  • Kumara Republic,

    Even hard rockers got in on the act…

    But at least they didn't sell out like a certain Rod Stewart song from 1978...

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

  • 3410,

    Warning: this video is not suitable for... well... anyone, really.

    (1979)

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Rich Lock,

    We ain't no suit-wearing businessmen like you, Simon....

    My feelings are tainted by something like that I guess, however for me it's more to do with with the human and creative wreckage that the bandwagon jumpers created than anything else.

    The early years of disco were those of groundbreaking and still hugely influential urban American record indie labels, many of them Black owned. Stigwood's RSO label was actually one of those although, like another, Neil Bogart's Casablanca, it spun out of control after Saturday Night Fever.

    The rise of - post Saturday Night Fever - disco pap, and the racist reaction to it, destroyed large numbers of these and bankrupted companies like TK in Florida. Others - the likes of Philadelphia International, Salsoul and more - either just struggled through by dropping all their acts or were bought for zip by multi-nationals (the ones who license the tracks to those cheap comps now).

    En-mass, musicians found no work and producers struggled badly.

    The tail end of disco was a disaster for the music industry, and most especially the Black independent scene which didn't recover until the mid 1980s and the rise of hip-hop.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to 3410,

    Warning: this video is not suitable for... well... anyone, really

    Maybe for Mike Love?

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    The rise of – post Saturday Night Fever – disco pap, and the racist reaction to it, destroyed large numbers of these and bankrupted companies like TK in Florida. Others – the likes of Philadelphia International, Salsoul and more – either just struggled through by dropping all their acts or were bought for zip by multi-nationals (the ones who license the tracks to those cheap comps now).

    Which provided an opportunity for the 2nd British Invasion to steal a march. And MTV – before it became bowdlerised – was a key player in that.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report

  • Sacha, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    the human and creative wreckage that the bandwagon jumpers created

    I blame Roger the alien's infernal time-travelling cassette

    though there were consequences..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Jackie Clark, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Hey! I resemble that statement. In 1978, Rod Stewart was my second boyfriend (Elton was my first).

    Mt Eden, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3136 posts Report

  • dyan campbell,

    For Jackie

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 595 posts Report

  • Danielle, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    Maybe for Mike Love?

    My favourite Twitter hashtag ever: #fuckMikeLove. Because seriously, fuck that guy. One of his many crimes: calling the other Beach Boys into the loo to marvel at the size of a shit he had just produced. Blurgh.

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to Danielle,

    My favourite Twitter hashtag ever: #fuckMikeLove

    Used it often.

    The worst thing he did (okay your story was pretty vile but...) was suing Brian Wilson for half the writer's copyright on Beach Boys songs he played no part in writing. Not only was it fairly universally agreed he had zip to do with many of them, but he was demonstrably not in even in the same country when some were penned.

    Brian, at his lowest of his pretty low couple of decades, rolled over to make it go away and thus Love took half the credits and the money.

    So yes: #fuckMikeLove

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg, in reply to dyan campbell,

    For Jackie

    Those first three Rod solo albums were fucking fantastic.

    As was Rod & The Faces @ Western Springs Jan 27, '74. They came on to the theme from The Stripper, and finished with a rawkus Stay With Me and Rod's 'Thank you for your time.... and your money'. He snapped the mike stand they staggered off.

    Which neatly leads into this:

    and this I guess

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • 3410,

    The worst thing he did (okay your story was pretty vile but...) was suing Brian Wilson for half the writer's copyright on Beach Boys songs he played no part in writing.

    Absolutely true, but "the worst thing he did?" That's a mighty big call.

    #fuckMikeLove

    Rod & The Faces @ Western Springs Jan 27, '74.

    Jealous.


    (Turn it up.)

    Kenny Jones!!

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report

  • st ephen, in reply to Simon Grigg,

    Those first three Rod solo albums were fucking fantastic.

    Pffft, too easy Simon, just like the last time when you stood up for Elton. I'm still waiting for your spirited defense of Sailing, Do ya think I'm sexy? and especially Huey Lewis and the News... ;-)

    dunedin • Since Jul 2008 • 254 posts Report

  • bmk, in reply to st ephen,

    especially Huey Lewis and the News

    I loved Patrick Bateman's raving spiel on Huey Lewis and the News.

    Since Jun 2010 • 327 posts Report

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