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Hard News: Ups and Downs

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  • Zippy Gonzales,

    Really? It's ours? I'm stoked.

    Yep, it's as Kiwi as pavlova or kiwifruit. Nah, seriously, it's not in any dictionary I can find. Dibs it's ours.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 186 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    I believe the rising inflection at the end-of non-questions is ours too? Even exported it acoss the Tassie in time for that Kylie Mole tv character to popularise it there?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    A lot of Canadians use eh? in the same way Sacha - and they also use it with the same happy abandon we do (to signal agreement e.g.)

    Anyone caught up with "Yes no but-" recently? I first heard it (on RNZ) about 3 years ago.

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Morphed inta "yeah nah but".

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    what do you mean "we" - used to be "eh" meant "Aucklander" (or "Canadian")

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2623 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    And "arrrr" meant southern dweller.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Or pirate, of course.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    I think we can lay claim to "than what" too. As in:

    If I had of been him I'd of done something different that what he'd of done.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 3122 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Not so proud of that one.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    Talkin' 'bout my g-g-g-generation...

    Really? It's ours? I'm stoked .

    Be careful what you wish for - that's what the NZ Herald reported Chris Knox as having had...

    New Zealand Herald - ‎Jun 12, 2009‎
    Pioneering New Zealand rock musician Chris Knox is in hospital after suffering a stoke on Thursday. ...

    He's long been my favourite steam punk!
    More fuel to his fires!
    Get well soon...

    Yrs
    Dinzie Lala
    abnormally puny ex-roadie

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7953 posts Report Reply

  • Vaughn Davis,

    Nice one the first time voter. I was in New York for their last election (which, sadly, meant missing ours, but there you go). The night before, I attended an only-in-America event: a political theatre production "honoring" first-time voters. 40 of them sat at the back of the stage while a cast of Broadway and TV's finest presented sketches, poems, readings and heartfelt tributes to the 40 young people who were about to become voters. It's easy to forget this is a country where people were dying for their political views within most Americans' lifetimes – hearing from people who lived through Alabama did more than remind me. Walking in I was standard issue Kiwi cynic; by the end of it I was hugging strangers with the best of them.

    Would something like this work in New Zealand. Maaaaaybe. Hope so. That Pt Chev applause has me thinking what-if.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 21 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Sofie - thanks for stroke insight.

    Russell - Did you see the 60 minutes segment about Jonathan Eady and his family's fight to get him home?

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    I also recommend Chris Barton's spectacular Herald story about Jonathan and his family.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    stroke insight.

    No problem. I find all my recent stuff to be quite fascinating. As an ongoing therapy, I have had great success with acupuncture, and I definitely recommend 2 glasses of red wine to relax and encourage muscles.Take the latter as you see fit:) Bear in mind I had an aneurysm as well so I can only say my therapy was good for me, but it really is fascinating stuff.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Peter Ashby,

    Sofie you don't have an aneurism as well as a stroke, not when the aneurism is in your brain anyway. There are two main ways to get a stroke, a blockage of an artery with a clot or plaque fragment or an aneurism: a burst blood vessel. Both result in a region of the brain being without or without sufficient blood supply.

    You can of course get such blockages and aneurisms elsewhere in the body where they cause other problems. Methods vs results and results being given names before the underlying mechanisms having been worked out.

    Good to hear you are not too much the worse for wear after yours. Stay well.

    Dundee, Scotland • Since May 2007 • 425 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    And Richard Griffin has again been allowed to go on the radio and declare nothing-to-see-here-there-is-no-chance-of-criminal-charges-and-it's-all-Phil-Goff's-fault-anyway on his mate's behalf.

    Today's DomPost editorial is also taking the line that sexual harrassment is just fine if the woman involved is a political activist. The blame of course lies with those trying to get some justice for the complainant - in this case Phil Goff.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Today's DomPost editorial is also taking the line that sexual harrassment is just fine if the woman involved is a political activist. The blame of course lies with those trying to get some justice for the complainant - in this case Phil Goff.

    Interesting to note that Fran O'Sullivan is demanding to know exactly what Worth said and did, rather than settling it all by blaming the victim.

    But the others? It looks like a club ...

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Peter Asbhy. Thanks for that but I had an aneurysm which led to vasospasm,which effectively led to the stroke.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Oh and they said it was a berry one.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    But the others? It looks like a club ..

    I think there is a real gender divide here. So many women, even powerful right wing women, have been on the receiving end of this sort of behaviour sometime in their lives, and so they know how humiliating and demeaning it is.

    So many men - sometimes older, who haven't caught up with feminism, or just plainly feel threatened by strong women - cannot see that they are doing anything wrong.

    That is one of the reasons that I find the discussions here on PAS so heartening. There has been a real sea change in attitudes to what maleness is over the last few decades - it's fine to openly discuss rugby as well as childrearing and emotions apart from anger. Now that probably sounds like a patronising old feminist talking (which is true) but could be backed up by historical study into gender and attitudes.

    It's exemplified by that It's Not OK campaign. It just would not have happened in the 1950s.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3229 posts Report Reply

  • Robyn Gallagher,

    Yep, it's as Kiwi as pavlova or kiwifruit. Nah, seriously, it's not in any dictionary I can find. Dibs it's ours.

    Have you googled it? Cos the googles suggest its in widespread use in the English-speaking world.

    I believe the rising inflection at the end-of non-questions is ours too?

    Wikipedia concurs that the Australiasian version of high-rising terminal originated in New Zealand but was popularised by Kylie Mole on "The Comedy Company". But there's also and American version.

    Interestingly, it's usually used by people who consider themselves of a lower social status than the person they're talking to, as a way of being friendly and equalising thing.

    Since Nov 2006 • 1946 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Anyone caught up with "Yes no but-" recently? I first heard it (on RNZ) about 3 years ago.

    I find myself using that one all the time, and then having to stop before the rest of the sentence to figure out what the hell I meant by it.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    Meanwhile, National continue to show their candidate all the love and support she needs.

    Judy Kirk, Party President, on Melissa Lee:

    "She is emotional. I have seen that on a couple of occasions when she has gone to speak and it may be her culture."

    (Herald)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1333 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Judy Kirk, Party President, on Melissa Lee:

    Pardon?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    Meanwhile, National continue to show their candidate all the love and support she needs.

    simon g: What are you doing to make that poor crocodile cry so hard?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

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