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All I can say is: Wow, my tone must have sounded quite a lot harsher than I meant it to be. Must do better next time. Perhaps somebody could point me to a smiley, albeit in an exasperated sort of way, little face.
And I also missed the PS. Would RSS have rectified that? I didn't think it would.
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Hard as it is to imagine now, CSN & CSNY were very popular, and their '71 live record seems to indicate that they were adored, by many.
No only adored but absolutely massive. I'm old enough to remember as an young adolescent that Deja Vu was probably the defining record of 1970, and Ohio (since the word has come up) was the defining single of those times.
Stills best moment, aside from For What It's Worth is, for my money, the recording of Wooden Ships by Jefferson Airplane on Volunteers.
Crosby's first solo album, If I Could Only Remember My Name, is actually pretty good but not the masterpiece its often claimed to be.
Aside from all that the biggest sin I can ascribe to CSN is their influence.
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Dunno. I assumed any additions to the post would trigger new RSS entries.
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3410,
Wooden Ships
True, great song, and the CSN versions are great too (It kicked off the Woodtock movie to great effect.) Can't remember the Volunteers version too well. Interestingly, it seems Paul Kantner (of J.A.) has, in recent years, gained writing credit for this song, along with Crosby and Stills.
If I Could Only Remember My Name is not bad; good performances but, like much of CSN, marred by not-great material. That said, "awful" is perhaps a bit harsh. The CSN songs are no worse than a thousand other Rock records of the time, just that they pale next to the likes of Young and Dylan, but then, who doesn't? As singers they were great. I especially like Crosby on the top of those three-part harmonies.
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3410,
Ohio [the song]
As far as I remember, that single hit the streets one week after the Kent State shootings, and the anger just jumps off the record. One of the best political statements in R'n'R. YouTube WARNING: video contains disturbing images.
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Deja Vu was the first record I bought to play on the first stereo I owned. I vaguely recall that Nash's stocks were high because he left the Hollies on a point of principle on them daring to cover Dylan?
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Steven, RSS is a way to follow updates to websites - you'll notice little orange icons like the one up the top right corner here. It's more automated, but I just haven't got round yet to setting it up at my end so I'm not sure how PAS behaves with it.
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Wooden Ships
It was always attributed to Kantner on the JA recording, and I think they had a bit of legal to and froing before it was universally co-credited.
CSN were most definitely of their time at Woodstock (as were a few others..Hendrix & Santana's Michael Shrieve driven performance being the other big ones) but their coup was bringing in Young that day.
I was a bit of a Neil Young fan pre-76 (I've not bought anything since Zuma) going as far as to transfer On The Beach from vinyl to digital in the days before he saw fit to release it that way.
Despite the fury over the Iraq war it didn't seem to inspire anything with the power or popular currency of Ohio, or for that matter Shipbuilding.
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Despite the fury over the Iraq war it didn't seem to inspire anything with the power or popular currency of Ohio, or for that matter Shipbuilding.
Probably because there is no conscription today?
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I vaguely recall that Nash's stocks were high because he left the Hollies on a point of principle on them daring to cover Dylan?
The Hollies Sing Dylan (or, more correctly, his rejection of such) might've give Nash a leg-up into Laurel Canyon but his work before that was nothing to get excited about.
It's always amazed me (not that I've spent much time thinking about it) how someone can make a career spanning decades out of so little.
Come to think about it, Fleet Foxes have something of The Hollies about them too, much more so than the usual Brian Wilson comparisons.
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3410,
I've not bought anything since Zuma
I do know what you mean.
There's a great boot called Chrome Dreams (Rust Edition) doing the rounds, which wraps up the end of that era. Personally, I think Live Rust is incredible, though older listeners probably consider it too late-period. (You still can't get it complete on CD, and it's still on my vinyl-rips-to-do list.) -
Personally, I think Live Rust is incredible, though older listeners probably consider it too late-period.
I just hated the whole Johnny Rotten angle but remember loving the movie at the time. I might not have bought it but I scored a freebie of the album from WEA and still own it. I do think think he's floundered ever since but, hey, you can't be essential forever and I really like his contrary-ism.
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3410,
Speaking of freebies, you can't hook me up with a ticket, I suppose? ;)
3410 is broke! -
Speaking of freebies, you can't hook me up with a ticket, I suppose? ;)
3410 is broke!Uhhh...I'm in Indonesia...sorry. They, the freebies that is, are notoriously hard to get hold of these days, with even the founding father of the BDO in NZ having problems I believe (which is simply wrong).
But I do understand the reasons why it's so bloody tight.
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3410,
Uhhh...I'm in Indonesia...sorry.
That's why I thought you might not need yours! Request was in jest, really, but thanks for responding.
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Geoff: We just took the I-70 through West Virginia. It's more or less a three hour drive, and not a particularly exciting one, although the fact that we were well behind schedule, towing a U-Haul trailer, and driving through a thunderstorm certainly meant it had its moments on that occasion. Between Columbus and Cincinnati there's the Creation Museum which, to my dismay, I've been past three times and not gotten to stop once. The HELL IS REAL sign nearby is almost as good, though.
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the Creation Museum
Of the many themed road trips I have a hankering to do, 'Crazy Roadside Attractions of the USA' is totally one of them. The Creation Museum would make a great double bill with The Holy Land Experience in Florida (daily reenactments of the Passion of the Christ!). I also desperately want to see the Weeki Wachee Mermaids show in the same state. Sometimes I spend hours flailing around on Roadside America just looking at all the crazy and wondrous things I could experience, had I but world enough and time.
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The Creation Museum would make a great double bill with The Holy Land Experience in Florida (daily reenactments of the Passion of the Christ!).
OMG. Just saw it in Religulous (friends from America style). The guy who plays Jesus in the Passion re-enactments gives a better account of of himself than most believers in the film. He's kind of cool.
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I can think of lots of legitimate reasons to text at odd times such as during a concert. Communicating with a babysitter, replying to a query from one's partner (such as where the teenager is so they can be picked up), saying hello/goodbye to family or friends about to board a plane and be offline for a few hours, or responding to any number of minor emergencies, domestic or otherwise.
Then again, there is also the less legitimate reason of boredom. It's not very polite to text for non-essential reasons but in a large crowd the performers aren't likely to notice. Is it anyone else's business? IF the texting is silent and discreet can others legitimately claim that it's ruining their experience?
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I do think think he's floundered ever since but, hey, you can't be essential forever and I really like his contrary-ism.,
True the last 5 or so years have seen a decline in Neils output, although a lot of Rusties (Neil list fans) would say otherwise, but to say that he's floundered since Zuma is to dismiss some pretty good albums. Comes a Time, RNS, Trans!!!, Eldorado, Ragged Glory, Sleeps With Angels, Silver and Gold. His recent live shows have been pretty good too and I'm looking forward to Friday although as a 52 year old BDO virgin I'm not sure what to expect.
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I can think of lots of legitimate reasons to text at odd times such as during a concert. Communicating with a babysitter, replying to a query from one's partner (such as where the teenager is so they can be picked up), saying hello/goodbye to family or friends about to board a plane and be offline for a few hours, or responding to any number of minor emergencies, domestic or otherwise.
All circumstance under which, I'd respectfully suggest, the world will not end if you take a moment to remove yourself from the social occasion and receive/make/respond to your call in seclusion. I'll put it this way: Would you find it offensive if I was talking to you at a party, and broke off our conversation in mid-sentence because someone more interesting had come along? Or I interrupted a conversation because I just presumed you wouldn't mind? I know social etiquette is a constantly evolving monster, but I just find it interesting how people behave in ways with their cellphones and PDAs they'd consider totally out of line if someone did the same to them in person.
It's not very polite to text for non-essential reasons but in a large crowd the performers aren't likely to notice. Is it anyone else's business? IF the texting is silent and discreet can others legitimately claim that it's ruining their experience?
Now you've raised a very interesting question in practical etiquette -- do manners exist as a mechanism to gain social approval, or do they exist as an expression of intrinsic regard for others.
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Probably because there is no conscription today?
Kent State wasn't about conscription, it was a protest in reaction to the USA's invasion of Cambodia.
It's more or less a three hour drive, and not a particularly exciting one, although the fact that we were well behind schedule, towing a U-Haul trailer, and driving through a thunderstorm certainly meant it had its moments on that occasion.
Ohio has the coolest storms. I was driving north into Dayton in (US) summer 1995, and I had to pull the car over the rain was so heavy, I couldn't see 10 metres on front of me. Lightning was striking the road a couple of miles ahead of us, and the thunder made the car shake. Probably scary if you didn't like storms, but I love them.
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I had to pull the car over the rain was so heavy, I couldn't see 10 metres on front of me
Less exotic perhaps than Kim Deal's hometown, but I had that experience once driving south into Taihape. Minus the thunder and lightning but still damn scary with huge trucks continuing to roar through the whiteout. Needed a restorative burst of caffeine before resuming the trek.
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Kent State wasn't about conscription, it was a protest in reaction to the USA's invasion of Cambodia.
Yeas, but there is little doubt that the level confrontation across the USA (and Australia) was dramatically heightened by the thought that either your or your brother or boyfriend might shortly be forced into uniform and shipped across the Pacific for a year or two into harms way and do do harm to others for no good reason.
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True the last 5 or so years have seen a decline in Neils output, although a lot of Rusties (Neil list fans) would say otherwise, but to say that he's floundered since Zuma is to dismiss some pretty good albums.
Trust me Tony, I know that it's likely just me, but I went from liking what I heard a lot to disinterest (maybe because punk arrived, but there were others I didn't lose interest in) after Zuma, to actively disliking what I heard after about 83. Dylan was another, although in his case I actually bought an album (Modern Times) and merely confirmed my prejudices.
Throughout the 80s I was given most Neil Young albums (I was lucky enough to get many WEA records gratis) so I did actually hear them before trotting off to Real Groovy. But I tried.
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