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  • Emma Hart, in reply to steven crawford,

    I think that the point in promoting the acronym, is to emphasize well rounded education.

    My daughter and I both came through high school very good at both English and Biology. After uni, I discovered there was such a thing as anthropology, and I probably would have loved it. My daughter has at least been told she could try Science Communication. She doesn't want to, but at least she knows.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4644 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Science Communication seem to be the new thing - with courses popular at university. Strange how trends change, especially for girls. Gross generalisations on my part but my impression was that in the 1980s it was law. In the late 1990s when my daughter was at school accounting was big and in the last decade it has been business and marketing. Science communication seems a pretty worthy area now for attention.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 3166 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Hilary Stace,

    Science communication

    Sigh.

    My biggest regret from school was dropping English, I was good at it, mostly because I read so much. But I didn't think I needed it. I was wrong and had to learn how to write all over agian during my post BSc studies.

    /rant
    The ability to communicate science is simply part of the job of being a scientist. My experience with "science communicators" has been resoundingly awful. There are scientists who have become science communicators and do a great job. But I have yet to see anyone trained as a science communicator do anything other than draw down a salary and waste time.
    /rant

    Being good at English helps your science immensely, but first you must be good at the science. BTW high school science is not all that representative of what science really is.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4431 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Science communication? That sounds like a great degree if you think that sciency stuff sounds really cool, but you and maths pretty much parted company at NCEA Level 1. Or if you're a university manager wanting to get more bums on seats in the science faculty.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel,

    the world is a feast of ideas...
    This thread seems an excellent place for a link to one of Australia's JD Salinger-grade photo-shy science fiction writer, Greg Egan's stories:
    In the Ruins

    The waitress placed two plates of chocolate cake in front of them, then sensed the tension and withdrew without a word.
    Emma broke the silence. “It’s a circle,” she said. “The velocities form a circle. I figured that out.”
    “Good.”
    She was still angry, but her curiosity got the better of her. “Does that really have something to do with energy levels in atoms? Or were you just bluffing?”
    Ghada took a sheet of paper from her clipboard and made a quick sketch.

    He writes great books - big ideas - dip in

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7771 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Attachment Attachment

    Science communication?

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4046 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    the curse of the recursive recluse...

    JD Salinger-grade photo-shy...

    I think I meant 'Thomas Pynchon-grade photo-shy'...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7771 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to steven crawford,

    string theory...

    Science communication

    ain't no communication going on with those 'slacker' kids!
    Science dictates that they need to be taught that that string needs to be taut, too...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7771 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Science communication

    ain’t no communication going on with those ‘slacker’ kids!
    Science dictates that they need to be taught that that string needs to be taut, too…

    You are missing the artistic use of shading in the photo and the delicate colour choices.

    All much more impt than the mere fact that the communication device DOES NOT WORK.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4431 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    When I was in the 4th form I wanted to learn typing. Why I don't know but it was a skill I thought was cool 'cos I liked typewriters!! (Pulling them apart :-) )

    Don't really know how useful that would have been today though........waste of t im e REaLly.

    The arts science split was/is profound. There could/should be an option attached to each stream to give "General Education" of science for the arts and "General Education" of arts for the science.

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1584 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason, in reply to steven crawford,

    Edit……

    Canned that one….

    Dalziel again!!

    Good for knotty problems though.

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1584 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Ross Mason,

    ring runner...

    Canned that one….

    big cans (or rubbish bins) are good for making smoke ring generating vortex cannons

    PS: I've always been a very 'knotty boy'...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7771 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Ross Mason,

    Don’t really know how useful that would have been today though……..waste of t im e REaLly.

    The only friend I had at school who took typing as an elective is now a self-made millionaire. Amusingly, he can't touch type and I can. I taught myself in about 2 days.

    The arts science split was/is profound.

    You think? I know loads of people who were talented in both.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10579 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

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    Here is a screen shot from some glaze making software from hyperglaze

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4046 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Any artist worth there salt, will be interested in developing new technology, in order to communicate there ideas. IMO.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4046 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason, in reply to BenWilson,

    The arts science split was/is profound.

    You think? I know loads of people who were talented in both.

    At school it was.

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1584 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Ross Mason,

    At school it was.

    That's where it seemed the least profound to me, since vast numbers of kids do both. In fact a little bit of both was core to the curriculum when I was at school, at least until about the age of 15. Of course there were some people strongly in either camp, and they were seen as archetypal for the subject they excelled in, but it always seemed like a pretty tenuous cliche, much more about peer group conformity than about actual genuine mental differences.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10579 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    One of my favorite artists, John Whitney

    In 1966, IBM awarded John Whitney, Sr. its first artist-in-residence position.

    And during the production of the film Avitar, Einstein was quoted in a meaningful way, in an academic paper, as part of the sience that was needed for building the technogy to compleat the film.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4046 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

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    Art, meet Sience. Sience, say hello to Art.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4046 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to steven crawford,

    Art, meet Sience. Sience, say hello to Art.

    Eadweard Muybridge, whose work that happens to be, never claimed to be an artist. He was the world’s first – and last – self-styled zoopraxicographer. The invention of the cinema killed off the new science he claimed to pioneer.

    His motion studies have long served as reference, often used far too slavishly, by animators. Because his frame-by-frame flying cockatoo study was much clearer than his blurry attempts with pigeons, most cartoon birds flap like cockatoos.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4586 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to steven crawford,

    Gilbert & George the Horse - Mk I

    Sience, say hello to Art

    that sapient is astride a neigh-sayer, if ever I saw one!

    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7771 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to steven crawford,

    silent raindrop...

    Art, meet Sience

    The prophet Paul Simon introduces his partner to the neon sounds of his old friend, Darkness...

    ;- )

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7771 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    I've been dragging Muybridge's human and animal meisterworks around with me for years, and they still put me in mind of that godawful Scott McKenzie song, people in motion, people in motion...

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4586 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Joe Wylie,

    that godawful Scott McKenzie song,
    people in motion, people in motion…

    That is a strange vibration...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7771 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

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    Dechamp, walking down the stairs.

    I thought it interesting that the conceptual arts arrived around the same period as conceptual physics started to be known to the general public.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 4046 posts Report Reply

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