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I wonder if the ideas that you put forward are deliberately misrepresented in order to avoid the ideas expressed. I thought that this was a forum where it was OK to have a different slant.
sorry ian, you lost me, are you being ironic?
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Not my style, homes.
that's too bad , i admire a person who is able to think and argue outside their own personal viewpoint
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Your implication that we're all capable of doing
I didn't say we're all capable, I was thinking specifically of you. I'm completely above any of the nastier traits of humanity, I'm perfect like many of the contributors to PA.
kidding a side, you're good at reading into my comments a different meaning to which is the first an more obvious meaning. I can only guess that either we're from different planets, or you're purposely provoking in order to create discussion, in which case, carry on, you can't have a discussion if its just one side congratulating themselves other on how right and just they are. -
bizarre euphemisms you're using
I tried my best to talk about it in a non emotional fashion but you're such a hard task master, its so hard to please you, I should just get you to write my speeches for me,
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It's not something any of us could have done in the heat of the moment,
apparently statistics begs to differ with you on that one. we've got a high rate of domestic violence as a country, and there will be people on this board reading or speaking that are involved on both sides of it.
its not just something tv personalities do. -
you labeling any of my comments apologist cos if true I'm as disgusted as anyone,
if true meaning if he did administer a sustained and brutal unprovoked beating as inferred by those with detailed knowledge be it insider or otherwise. just wanted to make that point clear cos it wasn't clear to me on re reading.
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I find it appalling that Veitch blamed stress, medication and played the victim to the hilt. It's just a bit on the nose to those of us who actually manage physical and mental health issues (including medication) without "lashing out".
it does indeed leave an unpleasant taste and veitch will be able to share the blame for that taste with his script writers.
taking it back from the script written part though, how would you have handled the actual event though? Serious question making no apologies for veitch (why do I have to even say that?) who I don't even like especially after reading the 2 documented accounts of his racist comments and the fact that he's a friggin sports commentator. -
And here's what's gotten a lot of people's hackles up, I think: When you start a sentence with "There's no excuse for what I did..." that's a perfect place to stop. Just stop talking.
Thanks craig, a point well made and agreed although the sound bites might have been a little light for tv. a career in tv probably doesn't go well with speaking simply especially when the great waffler holmes is on your team.
detail might also have been useful at said point but then there are probably a swag of lawyers strongly advising against that. -
This thread is getting so weirdly apologist for this dude. Since when is cracking four vertebrae and putting someone in a wheelchair just 'stupid'? It's not 'stupid'. It's not something any of us could have done in the heat of the moment, or whatever other bullshit line Your Views is spinning right now. It's a really serious and deliberate assault, not a 'stupid action'!
I just knew it was going to be you that would come back with this comment and of course you're absolutely correct, apart from mis quoting me, I did say "grossly" stupid, but you're right, I should have said "very grossly extreme out of this universe mega x 5 insanely stupid" etc, and it was right of you to side track an interesting point re the correct appropriate emotive hyperbole to use although I'm not so sure abut you lableing any of my comments apologist cos if true I'm as disgusted as anyone, but
now we've got that out of the way how should could or would someone else who wasn't a famous tv sports announcer deal with correctly with their actions.
and just to give you something to avoid answering that question, here's another thing I just came up with along those lines.
If society has been harmed also, then who else has wronged society?
just for starters this could have played out a lot differently if the medical people who treated his ex's back injuries had reported it. surely its their responsibility to do so, and while we're on it isn't it his ex's responsibility also to do so. are they going to get dragged into this for perverting the course of justice while we're getting all worked up and all. I mean her back specialists must have known the injury they were looking at wasn't cased by falling down.
its starting to get really complicated isn't it?
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isn't it bad enough to know she was hit, and that that is wrong.
that is bad enough yes, but then it makes all of us look like arses because this kind of violence happens often in our society and we give very little of our community consciousness to it, we certainly don't get worked up into a lather over it (and we should) and mostly it doesn't grab front pages across the country for every instance of violence of which there is a substancial amount.
the difference here is this guy is famous. cult of celebrity. focusing on the issues in someone else's back yard.
The only factor justifying anything like the response he gets above other worthy candidates for loathing is this guy may possibly have paid someone to keep it quiet, also possibly not.