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That might explain why you didn't see many people there.
ok, that one might not have been the one I did. I was still figuring out how to do loud without feed back at that stage of my career. I did the maxwell's one though.
I remember henry rollins band being very very loud.
have these people not heard of ear plugs. why would you go see a rock band especially one widely known to be into volume, without ear plugs.
that said, there is loud and there's painful, neither are safe to be exposed to for a full set. plug em if you've got em. -
one other point that people failed to notice or mention is that we have a really dense buying public in NZ (present company excluded of course)
They tend to not notice anything until someone overseas notices it.exhibit one, crowded house. a flop in the local market until america said number 2, then we loved them.
the whole bailterspace at cbgb's is as much about tricking the nz public into thinking other people are paying attention as anything else.
I think I was at that gig, might have even been mixing em, can't remember, I did one of their shows in 88, maybe 2. I remember it was either them or the bats on the same bill as henry rollins band.
not many people there but if no one tells the nz public and they weren't there, then maybe they'll notice their own music cos they think someone else likes it. is not telling the same as lying? -
if you don't know, if you can't hear it if it doesn't grate with you, if your radar ain't tuned to that frequency, then why are you doing in that job?
that's a very good point very well put (except for why should have been what are you doing in that job)
if it does all sound the same to anyone, then you're probably also the same people who rubbish art cos you don't get it.There are decernable features to nz music, not all of it fits in to easily definable categories but there are definitely some key ingredients, and most likely there will be more in the future. if yo can't hear them, then ask someone who can.
They wouldn't have bothered specifically noting culture and identity in the mission statement if the people who wrote it didn't think there was some culture and identity to be noticed.
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"no depression in nz" that could have had global success if the production had been better ..
yeah, cos the rest of the world is gagging for songs about the socio political situation in the colonies.
what was it like firing mr "Bohemian Rhapsody?
this thread has already pretty well discussed most of the issues but one point that hasn't been made clear as to why local bands don't get better production recording and mastering is cos it costs a lot of money, and that lot of money has to come from the bands pocket mostly, cos there are very few labels willing to put cash behind band, if they had any.
Look at our history. Flying Nun sat on 2 key albums in the late 80's for 2 years cos they were out of cash and waiting for a deal with mushroom to come through and start the cash flowing.Simon, your own label was almost crippled by your attempt to play it the big boys way and sink real cash into real studio to produce really quite astounding results for the time and place. too bad you were never going to see that money back any time soon.
our funding body set up to address issues of "local sounds rubbish" got them selves all hooked up on creating a new sound of new zealand, one created in the image and likeness of commercial radio, and so we still have pretty much the same situation that we had before. Musicians and their friends funding recordings that very few people are going to buy because they'll never know it exists.
The lack of cash in the local scene trickles down too. I think there are some good ears in the local industry, but they can only tweak what they can hear and I don't think there is one professionally set up control room in the sth island. That costs a lot of money to do and is essential for a serious sound. How can you make a dance floor hit if you can't hear the bottom end of your mix cos you don't have either speakers that deliver those frequencies or a room that is built and tuned to deliver an accurate flat response, that room is the hard part, it costs very serious money to build and treat something like that, not to mention skill.
A quick flight to sydney and studio 301 or its near equivalent could be worth it for you, if you can afford the money for plane and studio -$2000 plus should cover it.
That said there are some really good recordings done here by unskilled people. its luck really.
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36. Functions of the Commission
The functions of the Commission are :
(a) To reflect and develop New Zealand identity and culture by:
* i. promoting programmes about New Zealand and New Zealand interests; and,
I wonder if music is considered a program? probably a loop hole in there somewhere.
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here' s a good one for us simon.
(a) Consult from time to time with :
* i. Persons who have an interest in New Zealand broadcasting and the production of programmes in New Zealand;
shall I book you a session?
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37. Promotion of New Zealand content in programming
(d) Ensure that, in its funding of sound radio broadcasting, reasonable provision is made to assist in the production and broadcasting of drama programmes and in the broadcasting of New Zealand music.seems it is nz on airs job to ensure provision is made to assist in the broadcast of nz music.
not enough to provide content to radio and shrug it off. have to find whatever ways of assisting broadcast.I'm liking these guidelines. they seem very well thought out.
Who nutted out these ideas. -
Its great having 20/20 retro vision and an understanding of history but surely a vision for the future and an ability to implement change at the right time is more important.
I think both are important.
There's preserving heritage and culture, and there's enabling new culture to develop.
I think its also important to have someone who can get the job done, once its decided what the actual job is of course.Smyth's been building his vision of the house for 15 years now.
The guys at fair go should have been called in on this puppy years ago -
et al are forgetting is that the NZ On Air doesn't just sit around doing what it wants.
not forgetting, questioning.
I have a problem with a funding organisation being one mans vision.
I've asked questions to determine how much of the policy we see enacted comes from Brendan and I think thats a fair question to ask.There is obviously a lot of interpretation going on with what nz on air does and what it's told to do by its charter/mission statement.
as simon pointed out perhaps the board takes on a lot of what brendan advises.
I'd like to know who the minds were behind the original charter. anyone got that info lying round?
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Where in the world would you get the head of a govt funding agency personally entering an online debate?
well this small countries a good start for political figures to have direct interaction with the people they serve. Helen Clark's set a bloody good example in that respect, on everything from b nets, kiwi, morning tv etc.
its something that should be happening in an open and transparent society.
When it doesn't happen you get a gap between your people and what you do and then you get descent.i'm not sure what the situation is in other countries. I found the uk quite open considering the size of the population they have to deal with.
america, not so good, but then they're not really as socially minded, private health and all that.