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his other main point and I think a few on here will agree is that there will most likely be a move to a subscription based library of music. access to all music ever for 14.95 a month. the only problem with that is that you may not own it. you just play it off a shared library base.
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who hates majors? I certainly don't
A large part of the pro piracy argument has been majors are evil and have been ripping off customers etc.
you weighed in on that with they are inherently evil and didn't really go into details on your personal dealings with them. -
My only point was to his hypocrisy, which still stands.
no it doesn't. I've already said 4 years and massive changes in technology have happened in the mean time.
I don't think the ipod is the corner stone of piracy anyway. its a one way device, files go in but not out.
as he said broadband internet, and the easy flow of files between strangers coupled with computer technology and the mp3 those are the main factors. the player is just that, and its a more secure device than a computer for the music content.I'm not reading the hypocrisy meter as high as you.
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I wish you'd point out how. You seem to be the only one saying that, everyone else is smiling.
how are you not getting it. 65 % of people thought so little of the band that they refused to give em even a dollar. RB goes on and on about contempt for the consumer ad nauseam but what about contempt for the artist. 65% were unfamiliar with the works of Radiohead to the point that a dollar wasn't worth investing to find out. yeah right.
lets dumb the numbers down a bit to say where the 50th band to try the honest box approach. total downloads 10,000
65% stolen, band makes a loss on its recording and site admin costs -
I'd like to give some revisionist props to Boney M.
I'd love to discuss the merits of boney m but my gag reflex isn't strong enough to get past the cover shots let alone the content.
are we going to discuss the joys of eighties synth bands next, culture club perhaps? isn't this why you hate majors?
I think there's some conflicting emotions going on here. you hate the majors, but you love how they made you love their shit. -
Libraries?
libraries do charge for content, or some do. new releases get $1-3 charge.
and you don't get to own the finished product in a libraries case,
you could say that book stores with scores of people infornt of the mag section are an inequivalent but do you get pissed at the store owner when he says are you going to buy that, no then please put it back for someone who is. you get his point. -
U2s problem is that they are a part of a system whose time has passed and they simply are reacting against that.
think you've got a bit of a 'dire straits' blinkers issue on U2, which is kinda funny cos one of your biggest bands was a U2 clone for the first part of their life, even had similar haircuts.
but loath for their music aside his (and he's their manager, not the band) comments come from a stable and informed background. they're worth considering no matter how much you might hate the pompously earnest creatures he has in his pen. -
it worked for them..anyway you look at it, it was a resounding success for Radiohead.
That's lovely for them but you again ignore the point. if you put out an honesty box to pimp your wares and people nicked 65 percent of your product, you'd probably look at a different way of delivering. not really a success, although a comparative success to previous dealings its still a massive failure on its own level.
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a) its all frigging manufactured pop, its just the degree.
well that's just the point isn't it simon. people here are decrying the manufacture fake assed crims of music, then you drop in an article from one of the key manipulators, the man who was behind the men behind milli vanilli ffs, and pit his tainted words against the manager of one of rocks most pompously earnest (love or hate their music you can't doubt there over the top earnestness in what they do).
I know who I'd trust in a card game and it wouldn't be mr 5 million tax fraud. He may have done some good in the good old days but his work since then has tainted his legacy, he put the fake in fake music. -
BTW Radiohead have said they made more out of the current album than then entire EMI catalogue to date. I guess it worked for them.
I think the point was that given the chance to take something for nothing in the honest box system a screaming large proportion took advantage of the artist and didn't pay, many of whom grabbed it off bit torrent and filesharing sites even though the band offered it free on their site.
The same attitude applied to roadside vege stalls and newspaper boxes etc. That's the horrifying thing in their example.
lets also not forget that their experiment was the big show off example of its kind. after people get bored with the novelty of it results will be much much worse for others on that trail.and for those who say a lot of the people were unfamiliar with radioheads music so it was fair they should pay nothing to trial it,
give me a break, If you managed to track the band down then you surf the indie circles....how can you not know what radiohead sound like, and trial on their myspace if you like, or there's radio and mtv who have never been shy of their stuff. pretty lame argument for not dropping a schekle in the bands begging cup.