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They'll also just find an isp that doesn't do it. Large data flow is not necessarily an indication of doing anything illegal, so there will be isps that will allow it for those that pay.
I think in nz all 'all you can eat" plans have choking policies for excessive traffic.
the other plans offer gigs by purchase for maintaining your speed, so yes, you can maintain high speed but you have to pay extra for it, so you're kind of paying for your media downloads, but the money is not going to the artist or digital rights holder, its going to your internet provider for allowing you to have the bandwith that will allow you to feast on free pirate media.
That in itself is an interesting thing cos similar to emusic you could have internet providers acknowledge that most of their traffic is media and have them fork over some of their earnings to media holders. yeah I know that's not going to happen but its a reasonable idea. -
Without packet inspection this is indistinguishable from downloading a movie or 1,000 mp3's. I don't know this for sure but I would like to bet that this is why all significant prosecutions in this area have always required the seizure of hard drives at some point.
no, it is possible to tell who is downloading what file through bit torrent. You can get the ip addresses of who you're downloading from in azureus I think. They discuss it on their website.
you can use proxy servers to try and hide your identity but that slows your traffic down to fuck all., and proxy servers ask you not to use them for P2P cos it bogs them down. -
Do *what* now?
we're you doing a dirty phrases search on PA and all you could come up with was suck off the net?
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This is not the same as disconnecting someone suspected of piracy.
Correct, in nz they're doing it to knock traffic levels down which has the side effect of reducing piracy of large files like movies, and people hitting full res album downloads or binge feasting on music.
The port filtering does kill all traffic on p2p, or reduce it to dial up levels. The data caps kill total amounts. so it attacks it in 2 ways without even attacking it for being piracy. They justify it by saying those who download lots are pirating so anyone who complains must be a pirate.The French Govt on the other hand have decided to hit it for piracy reasons and are using similar tactics as the nz Internet providers, ie port filtering and data caps.
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actually engage and describe precisely what role a "working" DRM has to play,
cos I knew you'd be able to figure it all out on your own if you tired.
DRM keeps the system going, just like laws run our land, security cameras locks and cops keep people honest, and bitchy blog commenters decide how the future world will be,...........
answer me this, if creative types can't control the distribution of their works and no magical business model appears after 10 years of piracy to establish a reliable income flow to keep the producers producing, what do you think is going to happen?
how do you see the future of art creation?
will their be long term developing artists or simply one off hobbists? -
actually engage and describe precisely what role a "working" DRM has to play,
cos I knew you'd be able to figure it all out on your own if you tired.
DRM keeps the system going, just like laws run our land, security cameras locks and cops keep people honest, and bitchy blog commenters decide how the future world will be,...........
answer me this, if creative types can't control the distribution of their works and no magical business model appears after 10 years of piracy to establish a reliable income flow to keep the producers producing, what do you think is going to happen?
how do you see the future of art creation?
will their be long term developing artists or simply one off hobbists? -
This P2P filtering has more than a whiff of FUD about it.
Nah, its happening. a number of them state it on their web sites (woosh do) and others have said it happens when asked on the ph.
They do it via filtering ports apparently.
you can get around it by choosing a port that is out side of the range filtered and by encrypting your traffic. the down side of this is it slows your speed down to about 4 times dial up and really heavily taxes your processor. This is what happens in nz now, don't know what they're doing in france.They don't have to inspect packets, they simply choke large data folw. if you're using a lot then you're probably a pirater and they choke you down. simple really.
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I'm not defending it at all. I like being able to help myself to any and all media. My computers always downloading the maximum it can suck off the net, more than I could ever watch or listen to,
I'm merely highlighting what freethinking minds seem to be overlooking. the inevitability of collapse or control.elements of both are already showing with the french making moves to force internet providers to filter out p2p filesharing. ie its already started, as has the collapse of viability for many bands to produce recorded work to the standard they want.
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take it you're not away or the weekend...
what are you inferring, I've got nothing better to do than hang out here picking fights?
I've got a spot of underwater caving and some hang gliding planned if you must know. -
It's time to come up with something better,
ok, well while you're busy doing just that you won't mind if the digital media people try to exercise their rights under the law and try and stop you freely giving their livelyhood to all your mates, but do shout out when you get that mythical something better sorted. not like anyones been trying for the last ten years of music free for all or anything.