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this downloading mp3s is the saviour of it all is mythical bollocks. .
Umm...I'm the last person to state such a thing
yes , sorry, didn't mean to infer that you were saying that. I was just starting from your comment that the record industry was in good health.
That's also interesting about live revenues soaring cos based on the nz experience its harder for acts to pull people to their gigs, including international bands who haven't been getting sell out crowds.
Was the cure a sell out? snow patrol and their eager greys anatomy fans are having trouble selling out their chch show and they're giving away a free disc in the process.The reality is people are staying at home more with their computers and play stations. it is no where near the level it was so i'm finding it hard to see the proof to back up those figures.
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But those articles miss the fundamental point, which is that the music industry, and indeed the grass roots record industry is actually in surprisingly good health, its just the way it was done, and all that implies, that isn't.
The music industry ie the business of making money from the production and distribution of music isn't in good health at all.
its in complete disarray and everyone is waiting to see someone really succeed with a new model.
this downloading mp3s is the saviour of it all is mythical bollocks. really, how many people have actually paid for a music download in this country. Ask amplifier, its F all. and why the hell would you pay for a downgraded overpriced download when you can knick it pretty much without recourse.
The truth is the cats out of the bag as far as any form of control over recorded music, and no one's found an acceptable solution to it that returns artists their expense and time involved in making music. the whole thing is balanced on a musicians desire to do it for the love of it at the moment, and that means we'll see a high turn over of artists who will do it till they burn out and then move on. there will be no sophomore albums, no long term artists.The only way music will be able to pull any sort of return for their effort is if they can make it easier and cheaper than the altrnative (stealing it off the net)
Thats why I thought the whole one touch purchase at retail would be a good idea if they could keep the price for the transaction down to a reasonable level, and that's actually $1 no $1.99. That $2 price is based on the Cd model but they forgot to factor in that they didn't have to wear any production costs any more, or more accurately they thought that buyers wouldn't figure it out.
and retailers (itunes amplifier etc take a hefty cut of the pie just for letting you download off their site, as did record stores in their day with their 70% mark up)The problem with selling things for $1 is that banks like to take their big cut for managing the financial part of the transaction. fpos per transaction costs what is it, $0.50 cents a go, so if you're buying something for $1 and they hack another 50% on it then it's not a $1 song any more.
Credit card will tack the expense onto the seller if they'd even deal with a transaction under $20 so the artist gets less for their part of the deal.the 'industry' is far from being in good health, but there's hope.
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Having done my time in record shops, and had to play some truly dire shit, you learn to just switch off and let the music become white noise.
careful there paul, that's scarily close to saying dire straits and you'll just upset mr grigg by mentioning the band of his nightmares :)
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This kind of thing already exists albeit using the good old fashioned CD.
yes but there's something to be said for the whole avoid talking to the staff to find out what the track and band is, writing it down, going home and pirating it off the net routine, much easier to just spur of the moment one click and buy it
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OTOH, I doubt Leonard sold any more CDs because of that exposure.
oh so now its bands fault they didn't sell any more cds,
did you every think it might have been because your company weren't pushing their hold music hard enough.......:)
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;) and they did,
I don't think any of the stones have ever set foot in the south island again,its like a fairy story only really negative
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-- it's a fairly striking example of the way that commercial radio is becoming irrelevant as a music discovery platform.
what do you mean "is becoming"?
its been a long time since anyone ever discovered anything they didn't already know on a radio in new zealand. (the odd notable exception, - has anyone given kiwifm a second chance listen after the first program director balls'd it all up? mr fagan's done a really impressive job of creating a listenable, entertaining and varied sound field in the key of nz music, and they said it couldn't be done)The other side of the starbucks thing is the concept of them becoming the radio station, which leads to people paying them to play their crappy records they can't sell. if it wasn't a chain store it wouldn't be so scary.
I like the idea of a variety of independent stores with no corporate agenda who play anything they want or like giving customers the ability to find out and buy what they hear while shopping in the store.
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speaking of shameful behaviour I just talked to someone who attended the rolling stones 60's gig in invercargill where mik jagger legendarily referred to invercargill as the ass hole of the world or some such sentiment.
While he may or may not be right about invercargills anal similarities apparently the concert only ran for 10-15 mins because people threw tomatoes at them????
I hadn't heard that detail before,and we wonder why more touring bands skip the sth island.
I'm still a little shocked as to why anyone would pay good money to abuse artists that bothered to make the trip to their stinky wee towns.
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thats a bit of a confusing email response from collins.
I take it your comments were "pro diversity" so your comments against her are being portrayed by her as you being anti diversity because you were against her cos she was against diversity.........hang on I got to sit down, oh, ok, I got it now, she's a politician
nice spin.
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I blame the internet. All that blogging just encourages ppl to share their worthless opinions. </mine excepted>
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