Posts by stephen clover

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  • Hard News: The March for Democracy,

    At which point Craig and I will stage a minimalist performance worthy of Steve Reich in which our heads impact our desks in a rhythm out of phase with each other, producing aesthetically interesting patterns of sound.

    So was it you 2 that bought down building 7?

    ~~!crrrkkk!~~ Three, two, one... ~~!crrk!~~

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Speaker: ACTA: Don't sell us down the river,

    Don't discount, too, that such legislation would result in thousands of malicious torrents being created with suspicious names but innocuous (or nonsense) content, just to keep the filtering authorities busy.

    What, like they don't already???

    I will certainly be a little less scathing of the costs of the movie industry

    Yeah, the movie industry SHOULDN'T keep making unbelievably expensive, and unutterably shit movies. Hmmm...

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: The March for Democracy,

    But let's not insult him by saying his name in the same breath as 9/11 'Truther' loons.

    ... and please, let's not go so far as to overly-malign the 9/11 'Truther' loons by equating them to the fucking Holocaust deniers.

    [Not necessarily directed at you, Craig]

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: The March for Democracy,

    And don't forget the USSR. Does anyone really think they wouldn't have blown it all wide open if the Americans didn't actually get to the moon?

    <threadjack>
    I think there's no doubt that the USA went to the moon at least once. But there's less certainty that they went as many times as they claim to have done :)

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: The March for Democracy,

    Isn't that what every other museum in the world does?

    No idea -- do they? However I can't find any suggestion on the "corporate" end of Te Papa's website that event bookings will be vetted for suitability. It looks like the only requirement to book it is that you can afford it.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: The March for Democracy,

    You know how Gage's (and others') conspiracy theory more or less hangs on the fact that having a jumbo jet slam into your building and burn up seems more likely to cause your building to buckle and perhaps topple over than to collapse like a controlled-demolition? I've never heard this put forward anywhere, but just imagine if the building WAS demolished in a controlled fashion -- by design, by the building owner, as a contingency plan in the case of catastrophe. The principle being that this is more acceptable than having the thing come down over blocks and blocks of Manhattan, killing 10s and maybe 100s of thousands of people?

    [Edit: jumbo jetS, buildingS, thingS]

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: The March for Democracy,

    I think it's pretty extraordinary to suggest that our national museum is just another venue, especially when it comes to hosting an event of this kind, that impinges on knowledge and the past.

    AFAIK anybody can book the theatre as a venue; it has been used for public addresses, music performances, film screenings, Armament Industry conferences, and so on. Are you really suggesting that Te Papa should somehow vet every seminar, performance, film, speaker, and whotnot for suitability? Whom do you suggest would carry out this task? And by what/whose standards? Extraordinary...

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: The March for Democracy,

    And like Gio, I really really resent people like Gage being given respectability by an institution that not only receives massive state and local government funding, but is supposed to be a place where scholarship and a respect for historical and scientific truth are paramount.

    I hear what ur saying, and I'm pretty sure that for the purposes of this discussion, Soundings Theatre is just a venue that shares the Te Papa premises; no editorial or institutional mandate can be inferred from its booking. And long may THAT last. Would you really want it any other way?

    Not "truthiness". Not reality as an optional extra. TRUTH.

    C'mon... there's no such thing as the truth...

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Hard News: The March for Democracy,

    Not Kim Hill's finest moment... in fact she was damn rude... I haven't given up on her completely yet, but I'm damn close...

    Hear hear.. she's fallen as far as to be simply comedic value in this house. Get her out of there...

    By comparison Richard Gage must have thought he'd died and gone to heaven when he was interviewed on Active89 in Wellington yesterday morning by two "rank amateurs*" Liam Luff and Red Bird, who asked well-researched questions, gave him a chance to talk, and stopped him from drifting/ranting. Was a fascinating chat.

    * Possibly technically not actually amateur, but in context...

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • Busytown: A turn-up for the books,

    even if you're outsourcing your research the buck still stops with the person whose name is on the cover

    Not just the research, but the WRITING. You know, the literary stuff.. the rareified business of stringing words into sentences and so on.

    always classy blaming the help

    heh, I think I see what you did there... nice one ;)

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

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