Posts by Rich of Observationz
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I would suggest the following steps for school boards:
- forget to enable backups on the single computer with testing results stored it
- accidentally type rm -rf * (or forget to lock the building overnight, if the school in question is in a 'hood where that would lead to instant larceny) -
I think that whilst a governing Green caucus might certainly come under temptation to descend into Labour style expediency and trimming*, the party structures are there to constrain this.
* see a certain large cities "ex-green/lapsed-green/informal-green" mayor for an example.
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Having crunched some numbers, I think that the scenario I posited, where National get a large absolute majority which is negated by Labour becoming an electorate-only party, is unlikely except in an unlikely limiting case.
Which suggests that losing the overhang isn't that much of a problem, at least at the moment.
[ I still support single voting, but I guess I'm in a minority of one on that ]
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Legal Beagle: MMP Review: Trusting Voters, in reply to Moz,
On past numbers Mana and Maori will both clear the new 4% threshold
How did you work that one out? Mana got 1.08% last time, the Maori Party got 2.39% in their best showing ever in '08.
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Legal Beagle: MMP Review: Trusting Voters, in reply to Moz,
I'm assuming no more overhangs, as proposed, so there are only 120 seats ever.
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Legal Beagle: MMP Review: Trusting Voters, in reply to Sacha,
Yes.
Of course, this is a fairly unlikely scenario. (and actually, the Greens would also lose list seats in the above situation and would need a few more points to compensate)
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Legal Beagle: MMP Review: Trusting Voters, in reply to Moz,
Well no (55% of *votes* not seats).
If you were following earlier, we have a two-vote MMP system. If a sizeable number of people split their votes electorate to Labour/ party to Green then Labour could still hold maybe 20 electorates (last election was 22), even if Labour went down below the quota of votes that justified that number of MPs (16%).
If the Greens benefited and got 30% => 40 Mps, then they'd together hold half the house- with Hone Harawira, they'd be in.The overhang tries to correct that by increasing the size of the house.
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Something interesting on the electoral angle is what happens if Labour keeps losing party support to the Greens, but hangs on to a tail of electorates. We could wind up with an overhang (or non-overhang) for Labour.
What would be great would be if National got 55%, Labour 15% and a bunch of electorates and Green 30%, leading to a Green-led government. I'd just love the impotent rage of the righties if that happened.
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Legal Beagle: MMP Review: Trusting Voters, in reply to FletcherB,
This doesn't seem to be a problem in the US. You'd think that Romney might have been put there by Democrats registering as Republicans (which is done by ticking a box, no financial payment or agreement to rules needed) but that hasn't ever really happened.
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The technical term for this is "Labour"
I think that for Labour, the contest that matters is on their right, between them, National and NZF. All of those parties are as undemocratic as each other, so they cancel each other out.
The other contest on their left, between Labour and Green, they are happy to lose (and whinge about having their votes "stolen"). They'll assume that the Green votes will enable them to form a government when the pendulum finally swings in their favour, and the loyal Labour MPs will get the limos and the nice offices. So it doesn't really matter what intelligent, thinking voters want.