Posts by Russell Brown
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But on a more important note than this breakfast thing, Russell, no musical entertainment tonight?
DJ Lilly. We couldn't afford a band. And anyway, bands smell.
Russell, regarding the Karajoz blend events in Auckland and Wellington, I expect it comes down to logistics, finance and demographics...but is there any chance of them coming to Christchurch and Dunedin at any stage?
Unlikely at the moment, but more sponsorship might change that.
PS: Jo, do say hello this time ...
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I'm not sure I'd like a government that could "do" something about Thursday night post pub parties to be honest.
Real. I thought John Key was about to promise to make teenage girls eat their breakfasts for a moment there on Morning Report today.
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National won't do jack about any of this of course, but it doesn't mean it isn't a problem.
Agreed, and I think that's been the consensus here about the underclass theme in Key's original speech.
My point was that the "new analysis" just isn't what the Herald says it is.
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I didn't mean to pick out Simon, lin or gadfium for criticism, hope it didn't come across that way.
Nope. It's turned into an interesting observation, to which others have provided context.
I'm actually dubious about pseudonyms - I think it encourages the unhelpful development of personae - but I'll let gadfium off, because he's pretty cool. And he looks like his name ...
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William Blake was the Billy Bragg of the early 1800s ...
It pleases me to run a site where such observations are made.
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what I don't understand is how this wiki article does NOT get deleted
Well, it eventually turns into something like this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland_1
It funny that it's there on the public encyclopedia, but it's good that there are people occasionally meeting up, sharing a commitment to the public good, etc. But these aren't the droids you're looking for: gadfium has been really constructive and helpful in the current dispute, and I know Lin and Simon. It's probably the people who don't come to the meetup you have to worry about ...
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On the other hand, I guess a line has to be drawn, otherwise people will have wikipedia articles for dinner parties.
Or Wikipedia turns into MySpace.
It's interesting that Net perople tend to be inclusionist - that is, a low bar - while the keener WP editors often seem to be exclusionist. I guess they have different things to deal with. I 'm super-glad that I've been able to sit down with my kids and research stuff that is, in the scheme of things, trivial: yes, it's good that there's a place where every pokemon is named. And where porn stars have articles.
I guess WP has taken a lot of flak in the past two years on the question of authoritativeness, but compared to Encyclpedia Britannica, which is poorly updated even online. it's authoritative in whole other ways. One editor has sniped at us for writing an article soon after the event (ie: before press coverage could emerge to vouchsafe its noteworthiness) , but I value currency in Wikipedia.
I think I also struggle a little bit with the detailed sourcing thing, because it's not something you do in journalism (I did no university study either). To me, a nicely written article with lots of external links is more useful than a piece of crap that's been sourced up the wazoo.
And yes, I know, that would rely on everyone thinking like me ...
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Further to the culture point above, I think the WP culture definition of "spam" is broader (and to my mind, unreasonably so) than that of geek culture.
I think it was being called a spammer that really got Juha going. I mean, them's fightin' words ...
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but I think rather a lot of people here don't buy 'international' food to prove how global and hip 'we' are. We buy it because that's our food. You big cracker.
I buy it because I love the curry.
But I do recall being annoyed when Winston Peters used to rail against people who welcomed immigrants partly because they brought their yummy food with them. And their freaky supermarkets with big jars of freaky stuff and Korean noodles and shit.
Given euro New Zealand's diabolical history with food, that all seems pretty good to me. And god knows what I'd have eaten in Britain if it hadn't been for foreigner-food. (OTOH, if the Turks had never come I'd never have eaten kebabs and would still be eligible to give blood ...)
But yeah, interesting point about the use of words like "we" and "ours". It's almost like those words needs footnotes every time they're used. Perhaps in some future hypermultiethnic society there will be seven different ways of saying "we" ...
I could slag off Monsoon Poon if it would help.
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There are some people who spend all day doing "cleaning" jobs. Going through and deleting what they consider to be irrelevant or too commercial links, and judging by their contributions, they spend an amount of time doing that sort of stuff.
And most of it looks quite reasonable. I dunno, maybe he was just having a bad day, but his attitude towards Juha and I was unnecessary.
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