Posts by giovanni tiso

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  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    Hahahah....

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report

  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    My other made a "Baby in Boot " sign for my car. Well, you had to be there.

    No, it's already funny on spec.

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  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    Bloody Dido. Honestly! That's the NHS for you.

    Man, that's gruesome. You should warn people in advance, you know.

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  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    I agree completely with Danielle - the achievement is the lifetime that follows, not just managing to have the kid.

    One of the many reasons why we enjoyed our antenatal classes so much (besides the most obvious one: no freaking birth videos!) was the fact that it focussed mostly on caring for the baby, and comparatively less on the birth itself.

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  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    Oh, great, now it turns out I have bad saliva.

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  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    Dare I sugest we take another look at the death rate for new borns and the birthing mothers from the odd century ago and say "Thank You" to clean hands and evidence based medicine.

    Yeah, well, when you look at your options you don't think what would be the best course if I was giving birth at home in 1931? Of course the medicalisation of birth has saved a hell of a lot of lives in its day, and continues to do so. And of course people who choose to give birth at home nowadays do so also because they know that if things start turning they can avail themselves of the nearest hospital.

    If you care for evidence-based, then look at the statistics for the here and now, talk to a healthcare professional and make an informed decision without ridiculing the people who may choose to go another way. Thanks.

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  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    Giovanni, you're right, the standards are much tighter here for midwife training, though I don't know if we've got the equivalent mortality figures.

    Last time I looked into it, home births in NZ had better outcomes than hospital births, although one needs to consider of course that at risk pregnancies are scheduled at the hospital to begin with and will skew the numbers somewhat.

    I think the guilt and inadequacy comes from the whole competitive parenting culture rather than the health lobby.

    We were surprised once at a party to find a woman who (totally umprompted by us, I swear!) declared her outrage at Sheila Kitzinger's books. We found them rather helpful and not at all judgey, she found them deeply offensive. You bring your own worldview into these things it seems to me. In terms of the people we interacted with, they seemed keener to present us with options than to lecture us abut the course we should take for the good of our child and the nation. With the possible exception of our Plunket nurse, but that was post-birth and we didn't bother with Plunket for our subsequent children.

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  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    US midwives don't have good enough training to conduct homebirths, and the statistics show that it is riskier than hospitals

    Not in New Zealand they don't. Why do these conversation always end up discussing how things work somewhere else? It's like the bloody cheese thing. Can't believe how many times we were told that Justine couldn't eat soft cheeses, when in fact she could since we pasteurise milk used in cheese production in this country.

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  • Hard News: Feminist as crazy old man,

    With the current lot in I reckon health performance is going to be very cost driven and experts who endorse "better outcomes through natural childbirth" are going to be much in demand.

    Not if we go the way of Australia and make insurance premiums so expensive as to make the practice of midwifery unsustainable. There is hope yet!

    My partner and I are hippy home birthers, but I would rather it be promoted as a valid option for women because of its outcomes, not because it's cheaper for the state coffers. Slipperly slope, etc.

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  • Field Theory: One in a billion,

    The next step: sending the actors into your home.

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