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Anyone familiar with the story of the Zaxs?
but who's north and who's south.
isn't russell from rangiora? That's more north west.
I hardly think asking a journalist to present the evidence they built their case on is a zaxs situation though.
I'm happy to hear or see the original source material where Campbell said the stuff that lead some to cite it as fact and then proceed to build resentment against him based on that unsubstantiated material.
Show me the actual place he said it and I will gladly accept it, but asking for proof is hardly cause for calling zax on this. We do and should demand proof in all areas, including accusation of copyright infringement, why is it offensive to ask for it here? -
This was my favourite part.
anyone bothered to call the person who made that statement and get some elaboration on the thinking of it?
quoted like that it doesn't make logical sense. is there a context for it?also do you read campbells replies to issues raised re copyright, 92a and a bunch of misinformed stuff that some people believed.
Campbell Smith Questions and Answers on copyright 92a etc etc
for a dirty liar I think he came across in well informed and thought
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correction
defrauded a bank of $150000 and did time for itwhat band would have 150000 to be defrauded of
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Campbell didn't specifically say Bic Runga was reduced to flipping burgers.
so why did anyone say he said she was and make such a big issue of it except for tabloid effect.
I've read the referring material and bics blog and it doesn't say he said that anywhere. Bic goes off on a tangent about flipping burgers,
And she has done minimum wage work afte the age of 15, just not the kind that gets grease in your hair. she worked in a record store for years. Other popular artist second jobs (or first jobs really) are in the postal service, hair dressing and burglary. (I know of one guy who defrauded a band of $150000 and did time for it).
Campbell was making a point which stands, he didn't lie as far as I can see from the information presented. Allegeding he told the parliamentary select committee something is not worth the pixels it takes to illuminate those letters. If he did say it to a committee there will be minutes to the meeting and that is the information that you should be quoting, not some link off a "he said she said" page.It wasn't a smart thing to do, and she wasn't very happy about it.
read her blog again. She's not criticising Campbell, she's criticising the people who believed that she was had taken a job flipping burgers. you chose to read it in a way that supported your point which was campbell is a liar and so there for RIANZ is bad.
I'm not even trying to defend the guy cos I don't know him or care but points like this and the 'let them rot' comment do absolutely nothing to alleviate my doubt in some of the things you say.
The same post also refers to the more outrageous parts of the RIANZ submission that robbery was doubting me on:
oh come on russell, this is the sort of thing that disappoints me from you. You know full well and the comment record shows the one point I picked you up on was the let them rot comment.
You painted it in black and white and I filled in the grey.I want to see the submission from RIANZ that uses those words or similar.
This bit though is strange
, "it is submitted that libraries and archives should not be permitted to make sound recordings or films available both in terminals on-site or terminals off-site and that such rights are not necessary for their proper functioning and operation."
See at my library I already am able to view movies on screens there, and listen to cds, its always been that way. are they breaking a law?
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In 2007 the head of RIANZ Campbell Smith allegedly told a Parliamentary Commerce Select Committee that Bic Runga had to take a second job flipping burgers due to illegal downloads.
The key word there is allegedly.
If you know bic then you would know that she worked in music retail well into her career. She worked in the colombo street CD store up until moving to auckland and then worked in a cd store in auckland for a long time.
If she took a second job it would not be flipping burgers.
Seeing as how she's a mum now I would hope she was at home watching soap operas on the dpb.
The article linked to by mark said 8 of his 11 acts had day jobs, not specifically bic.
Allegedly doesn't do it for me and context also is important before I can get on the "campbell smith is a dirty sticking liar" band wagon, but don't let me spoil the fun.and to poop the party just a little more here are some links to articles and a Q&A with Campbell on 92a.
load the muskets
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Campbell Smith that told us Bic Runga had to get a second job flipping burgers?
does it say that in that article? It says 8 high profile and major artists take second jobs. big surprise in nz.
I doubt that includes his top star, but quite possibly the people just beneath her.unless it says "bic runga flips burgers for a living" says campbell smith then he didn't say it did he? somebody read that into his words.
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I'm holding off on the champagne till the stake has been shoved through it's heart but, on the whole it is excellent news.
I'd like to have seen it go through in a parallel univierse just so we could see what a complete non event it would have been in its maligned and defused state.
That the Telecommunications Carriers Forum couldn't see their way clear to writing into the code a system for addressing the almost universally acknowledge flaw of guilt upon accusation is pathetic.
did they even try?
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Archives NZ is not the same organisation as the National Library
sorry Russell I did who I was referring to in the post you were commented on. Nat lib is the one who messed up the relationship with nz arts producers and entered into the fray with a reduced spending budget,
Archives I like a lot more although there have been some very negative comments made about turning the project into a money spinner, charging like a wounded bull for access to content. (this from an inside source)
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Come on. Stick to what I said.
you said
They also give the impression they'd rather see original masters rot than have Archives NZ store them.Sigh ...
the key term in that is "see them rot"
I find that hard to believe, public figures could be correct but I'd like to hear those words out of RIANZ's own mouth or from a press release.
Having met cameron recently I find it hard to believe he'd say that.