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Let's get back to the topic rather than the personalities?
the sub topic was who are we talking about when we talk about "everyone".
If you're speaking on behalf of a group of people then it helps to know who that is, if its a personal opinion then perhaps its helpful to indicate that it is infact that.
I wasn't trying to make a personal attack on mark, I like him and his discussion, I'm just noting how his posts come across. I get the impression he speaks for a big group of people. He'd make a good politician with those public speaking skills. -
a musician can release their music as they feel fit, without having to satisfy a label.
They always could, I did it, all it takes is paying for it yourself but you're still in a similar place as you are with the empowered net in that you've got your wares but you still have to draw attention to it to 'sell it'. In reality that is as difficult as it ever was.
The main other difference is that now anyone can release a musicians music without consent or control from the artist in a way the artist did not intend and presently pretty much without repercussion, and I would put it that depending on the artist the internet has removed more power than it has given them, if power is control over their works.
it may have enhanced the amateur position but the professional has been left guessing how to best survive in the new environment.for all the calls for "adapt or die" and "world of opportunity" in the last 10 years the look of the music, film, and book world is predominantly not one of an empowered and in control group.
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And yet I don't think I've ever claimed to represent anybody at all, apart from myself.
your posts come across as lectures, you're not asking questions, you're telling it how it is, there by representing the truth and there by representing everyone.
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I thought this thread was about me and robbery ;-)
if you biuld one they will come.
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giovanni's point is valid,
purely by the medium that PA occurs in it is bias to the people that frequent it, not that it should apologise for that, but just that you should acknowledge that if me or mark or anyone else held down a day job in a factory we wouldn't have the inclination to spend hours debating the finer points of the word "steal".Giovanni chose to pick teachers at random but you could equally as easy pick sailors or retired bus drivers.
The point was that this place has a tendency toward computer literate people, people who use computers in their daily lives. many people still don't, but of those that do and come here a sizable proportion appear to be comp tech leaning, or maybe comp tech leaning people are just more inclined to speak their views, loudly
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Well, yes, I'd certainly cite Metallica in that bracket.
I wouldn't.
part of their use of loud is to increase the brutality of their sound.
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all your worries about that will be groundless.
all my worries? care to list them cos if you think all my concerns are based on people using studios then you haven't understood much of the big picture.
my comments in that post relate directly to the argument that all is good cos recording is free, or that digital has changed a writers expenses so they can write books cheaper, or cheap enough to have them taken for free. That's a simplistic view that doesn't understand the complexities of creative sustainability an one that is too often used to brush over a much more complex and serious situation.
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Besides, "reduced cost" doesn't necessarily mean "no cost" to the creator.
very true but the advances in digital have been heralded to mean no cost by many and its simply not the case.
And there are some appalling pieces of crap dumped on us by labels with engineers forcing loudness to the detriment of the music.
equally true but you'll find the people who do the loudness thing where you notice it are often the amateurs. There are ways of making your track competitively loud without ruining it and to do that you need someone experienced, someone like don bartley in sydney who does some of the best mastering around.
Experience doesn't have to mean tired and old, sometimes it can mean knowing how to achieve something you don't have the skill or knowledge to do yourself.as no-one was talking about the quality of the work,
the quality of the work as in how it achieves the goal it sets out to achieve is completely relevant when you're using the argument that home studio technology has reduced costs of recording. if it sounds over compressed and loud then the money saved on home studio is wasted if you wanted to make it big and wide.
I'm seeing a lot of people who have spent the last 3-5 years with home studios coming out and asking for help now. its not necessarily as simple as hit record. the difference between the sound they hear in their head and the sound coming out of their speakers can be quite sizable, and I'm using the word quality to mean artists desired result, not technical purity of signal.
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Oh, I don't know about that, Rob... :-)
I did say comparatively, and I should have quantified that with a "that I've seen" comment. maybe you've done your nut in on some other threads I don't read.
Mark's calm and collected when compared to a shark attacking in still water.
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those expenses would be there whether she wrote a book or not.
true but if they're not dealt with then she'd have to get a job flipping burgers (or paua fritters) and if she's doing that then she's not writting and so on.
an hours writing costs the same as it always has, digital hasn't changed that drastically and until computers write books themselves it'll still be people devoting time to a task, which requires a wage to pay for that time, unless its all amateur in approach, which is all well and good for the first couple of works but after that it becomes an issue both for the artist who can't sustain the endeavor and for the consumer who never gets to see more than a couple of amateur level works by an individual who never gets to hone their skills.