Posts by Steve Parks
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I find the ones that focus on quitting rather than just how evil cigarettes are somewhat less offensive.
Agreed, and again with Emma:
But I have found the more absolute you are with teenagers, the less they listen.
Jason wrote:
they do respond to peer pressure in huge numbers especially in the younger age groups.
Well, maybe - see my second post on this matter, you could be right with the younger ones. But I have a feeling for many the ads will be seen as too bossy, and as Emma suggested, too absolute. It will seem like being preached to, and thus lose the peer presure factor. Peer presure's actually kind of subtle. These ads make it too obvious that they're trying to manufacture a kind of peer presure: "Hey I'm cool - be like me"
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Jason, you might be right that it could be effective on early teens and younger.
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Agreed, Isabel. I don't like the "not our future" ads.
I'm not the target audience, either, but I suspect if I was a "hip", non-conformist stick-it-to-the-man young person today, I might feel a bit patronised by it. It'd make me want to sing: "Fuck you I won't do what you tell me!" at the screen.Therein lies the danger of using a kind of peer presure to try to counter peer presure.
It's all so false seeming, too.
And I would like to ask the guy who says something like "I can't believe modnern society allows shops to sell poison in the same place as milk..." if he has ever bought booze from the diary.
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The idiots need our empathy, understanding and goodwill as much as the victims...
I wouldn't go that far. They need some understanding, yes, but not the same amount or type of goodwill as the victims.
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WHY do we have children????
Good question, with this overpopulated world we live in.
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I think it would come down to fear=respect Danielle.
Well, that cleared that up, then.
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[I'm] also the person who says 'okay, off you go, let me know if you need an ambulance'.
If you want to be the cool mum, you'd give your child a mobile phone and say "okay, off you go, call yourself an ambulance if you need one."
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Russell, your argument is circular, you cite your own argument to 'prove' your own point.
I must have missed this, David. Where did Russell do this? (I saw him restate evidence he had previously refered to, but that's not circular reasoning.)
As to my delicate constitution? It's correct that you didn't use any rude words. But bullying and aggression can be concealed in a velvet glove. What words in the New Zealand vernacular contain more menace than "Get the man some eggs..."?
Again, where did he bully Ralston, or anyone else? I'm not sure what your point is here. (Although if there's a little more acrimony than needs be between the two, it began with Ralston unnecessary labelling all the men in the ads "smug". If he wanted to address this serious issue with a contrary point of view that was intended to raise some points based on research, he could just have said they were "well meaning but misguided" or something similar. But no, he reached for invective. Because, ya know, that helps keep the debate focused on the issue at hand...)
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"time for everyone to chill the fuck out, cut the Red State-Blue State bullshit, and get to work"
The presidents new speech writer: Jules from Pulp Fiction.
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He slapped her across the face.
Just the sort of discipline we need, so that young people grow up to realise family violence is wrong.