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Speaker: The Audacity of Hype: John Key and the new National Socialism

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  • stephen walker,

    that's right!
    all drugs are BAD!
    except, of course, if they happen to be nicotine, alcohol, caffeine or refined sugar.
    in which case they are not an issue at all.

    Are you all looking forward to your kids starting to engage in this rite of passage?

    eh? i'm looking forward to educating my kids about their relationship with psychoactive substances (y'know, nicotine, alcohol, caffeine, refined sugar, SSRIs, and all those naughty illegal ones too).

    after all, we wouldn't want drugs to be like free tertiary education, would we? (good for people born before 1970 but bad for the ones born after)

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 642 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia,

    All drugs are bad but some are badder than others.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report Reply

  • stephen walker,

    of course!
    THC, MDMA and psilocybin are MUCH badderer than alcohol, nicotine and refined sugar because, well, because they're illegal!

    and because they can kill you!
    and because they can get you addicted!
    and because they can wreck your family!

    unlike alcohol, et al, which never cause anything like that.
    well, only a bit.
    for a few unfortunate people.
    but they're ok becase the law says we can use them as long as we are responsible grownups about it.

    so, there are bad drugs we are allowed to experiment with,
    and there are the really bad drugs we need to be morally strong enough to resist.

    now i understand.

    nagano • Since Nov 2006 • 642 posts Report Reply

  • Tony Judd,

    All drugs are bad but some are badder than others.

    Puh-lease...

    When a person ingests a "drug" they do it to induce a change in brain chemistry.
    Are you saying it is always BAD to change brain chemistry by ingesting some sort of substance?
    Or only if the effect is in some way pleasant?
    What if we change our brain chemistry by some other method?
    By hugging for example. Is that BAD too?

    There is no moral (GOOD/BAD) component to what an individual does to their own brain chemistry. There may be a moral component to their actions after, but any claim that

    All drugs are bad...

    is just ridiculous.

    Perth • Since Nov 2006 • 63 posts Report Reply

  • Cecelia,

    All drug are bad - I wrote it but I wasn't really serious - just as I guess Finlay wasn't all that serious about criticising Key for not taking drugs in the 80s.I just meant that some drugs are pretty terrifying - Millie Holmes - P. Binge drinking. Winehouse. Our youth.

    Hibiscus Coast • Since Apr 2008 • 559 posts Report Reply

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