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  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Sacha,

    Now, which of those approaches is 'ambitious'? Which sort produces a high value economy? What sort of country do we want to live in and for our children to inherit?

    Clearly it's ambitious if we gut the public sector and expect a historically-unwilling private sector to step up and fill the void.
    Oh, wait, you didn't mean that kind of ambitious :|

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    Clearly it's ambitious if we gut the public sector and expect a historically-unwilling private sector to step up and fill the void.
    Oh, wait, you didn't mean that kind of ambitious :|

    There's Silicon Valley ambitious... and then there's Kath & Kim ambitious.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Kumara Republic,

    Kath & Kim ambitious.

    You mean "embishus", in the manner of a Shon Key. Right?

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Speaking of ambition, Metiria Turei calls out the WWG for their lack of it.

    And in the five years between December 2000 and December 2005 the number of people on working age benefits dropped by a whopping 90,000 (or 90% of the Welfare Working Group’s 10 year target) from 392,000 to 302,000. That was without the punitive measures the Welfare Working Group is proposing to introduce – in fact the work-for-dole schemes and work-testing of single parents that had been implemented by the last National-led Government were abolished early in that period.

    So much for ambition! The Welfare Working Group doesn’t have any more ambitious target for reduction in beneficiary numbers than would seem likely, given past experience, to occur anyway given reasonably favourable economic conditions and sound economic management.

    So why is the Welfare Working Group proposing its beneficiary bash-fest?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Sacha,

    So why is the Welfare Working Group proposing its beneficiary bash-fest?

    Maybe they have shareholdings in gated community developments?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5446 posts Report Reply

  • Heather Gaye, in reply to Sacha,

    Speaking of ambition, Metiria Turei calls out the WWG for their lack of it.

    OH YES, this:

    People in employment on low and middle incomes have as much to fear from the Welfare Working Group as beneficiaries as they will all be forced to compete for the McJobs these policies will create.

    This is the point I’d like to see more in media soundbites. I reckon there are a lot of working National voters who’ll shrug their shoulders at WWG measures because they don’t believe any changes will affect them directly.

    Morningside • Since Nov 2006 • 533 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Heather Gaye,

    That would require a competent Opposition. So far they seem to be MIA.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • giovanni tiso, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    So far they seem to be MIA.

    Actually, MIA would be a considerable improvement on what they're doing.

    Wellington • Since Jun 2007 • 7473 posts Report Reply

  • Rob S, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    Q, If John Key were a cheese. ..............hmmmm
    A, Mild or colby?

    Since Apr 2010 • 136 posts Report Reply

  • Heather Gaye, in reply to Rob S,

    If John Key were a cheese.

    I've never been a fan of blue cheese.

    Morningside • Since Nov 2006 • 533 posts Report Reply

  • Matthew Poole, in reply to Heather Gaye,

    I've never been a fan of blue cheese.

    Maybe not, but mouldy and smelly isn't a bad description for most of his ideas.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 4097 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to giovanni tiso,

    MIA would be a considerable improvement

    True

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • Jacqui Dunn, in reply to Matthew Poole,

    [Key] is made of the same stuff… cheese.

    Ah, but what sort? Edam? Parmesan? Gouda? Feta? Gourmet voters want to know!

    Why, blue of course!

    ETA: Ah, Heather beat me to it.... I don't read fast enough, that's my problem.

    Deepest, darkest Avondale… • Since Jul 2010 • 585 posts Report Reply

  • Rob S,

    Key is too mainstream to be a cheese with any real character even an ordinary blue vein displays more elan than I associate with him. I expect that He's relaxed about that however

    Since Apr 2010 • 136 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Heather Gaye,

    If John Key were a cheese.I've never been a fan of blue cheese.

    I figure he'd be more of an American cheese, the sort that comes in a can and smells sweet and sickly and has an orange tinge to its otherwise pallid complexion. The sort of cheese that is ambishus to be a real cheese.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Or like Swiss cheese, riddled with illogical holes and empty spaces?

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Geoff Lealand,

    Or 'we are the boys from down on the farm' cheddar which sort of oozed when you put it under the grill, and ran, but didnt actually taste of very much at all..."tastes better"? Only because we hadnt tried too many real cheeses then.

    Now, we have-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    You put it under the grill and ran? Frightening cheese eh?.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Islander, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Well, no, you stayed there and watched it fizzing under the element - then it generally browned or blackened, and you went off and ate some fish...

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    But what about the $4m for fixing the grass of Lancaster Park,..er.. Jade Stadium.. er.. AMI Stadium? And it won’t even be played on until next year. That should keep a bit of cash in the NZRFU accounts unti the RWC handout turns up.

    NZRU doesn't own AMI stadium. It's owned by by the government through a body called Victory Park Board.

    So the government is basically spending its own money on fixing up its own asset. Don't let that get in your way though.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    He's "The Great New Zealand One Kg of Cheese" (tm). The kind of cheese you'd buy for a group of assorted NZers, if you were only allowed one kind of cheese, and wanted to put it on everything. A money saving cheese. The kind of cheese we had before we knew there were different kinds of cheese. The cheese that makes you feel patriotic when you eat it.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to BenWilson,

    He's "The Great New Zealand One Kg of Cheese" (tm).

    That would be the $16 per Kilo block of cheese then, you remember? back in 2008 when John Chee was ambitious to be the big cheese.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    the big cheese

    I don't think he minds what type of cheese; it's the size that does it for him

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX,

    "If John Key were a cheese?" - well he is and he is "Richard" Cheese.

    Presently he only has to smile and wave such is the standard of the opposition who are no capable of w[ping the smeg look from his face.

    Shane Jones, Darren Hughes leaving Labour with both feet well shot off, I guess the next target will be a blast to the head – bye (or by) Phil

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1224 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    I think National are quite happy with Goff continuing to be the head.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10657 posts Report Reply

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