I like, smarter than the average bear :)
So, wise and talented beyond her years, the Girl'z got skillz .
It would be nice if we were more than a cleaning crew for National’s fuck-ups.
Maybe that's exactly what Labour is? The work horse that saves the day. Maybe that's what labour are best at?Maybe they understand struggle best and if so I'm ok with that.Like most here I want fairness, but really what if labour are the best there is to keep it real? The reality now is, some one else is in control, and this selfish greedy corrupt behaviour will combust as we are already seeing signs of. Those that are opposed to the status quo must shout and scream and bring all of it to the attention of the public just as Hager is doing. We should all join and support his purpose (including Greens) and say ' not fucking good enough!!" not "well maybe we can make a deal?" There is good and bad and I know which one is worth fighting for.right now.
This does not seem to have interfered with their ability to define what they stand for.
That may be your perception .Just feels shifty to me. I've dealt with too many cons in my life to look the other way and the fact that the Greens helped implement the insulation programme doesnt change the fact that whilst some kids may feel a bit warmer now, there are many more starving and more families struggling and I cant support Nactional for that slice of a carrot when someone else gets a stick shoved up their rectum. On principle, it just doesn't feel right, call me old fashioned.
So the same as Maori Party then, who believe it’s better to be engaged. Just fantastic. Frankly I’d like parties to stand by their principles rather than ” make deals with the Devil”
One begins to understand why people cant be bothered voting. I would and are happy to support the Greens but I wouldn't if they support Nactional Muf in any way.
Aiming to win the election hinges on being able to form a formidable opposition and a credible alternative.
They should all be the Labour Leaders. What a sensible bunch we have there. Why cant we just all get along and lead as a group ? :)
AND to reduce the amount of strife between Labour and the Greens (which I think affected the support of both parties negatively).
If you take Jones out of the equation I couldn’t see much issue between the 2 and (like, when Roger Douglas was in Labour), Jones was always denigrating the Greens and not very supportive of Labour either, but just watching the address in reply debate now, Cunliffe was great and Bill English is fucking horrible . I just don’t understand why the Greens could even begin to think working with National is a sane idea. First up today, day 1, take away workers right to have a break at work.That’s a National first Policy that will pass.How could the Greens work with a Party prepared to do that?
Now the Greens can say “We offered to talk and they said no” and that’s the end of it.
So they were happy to wait until after the Election to try deal with National but not Labour? I recall Greens wanting Labour to make a deal with Labour before the Election.
I was just looking at Audrey’s take on the Parties yesterday
I was pleasantly surprised to see Labour are only down 2 seats and JohnKey is only up 1. Although I think any loss is a bummer, Labour don’t look as bad as I anticipated.
Winston was the winner. So JohnKey is in a sense the loser. It was the right and middle support that shifted from National as much as Labour. National got 1, Maori lost 1. I suspect Seymour is being prepped to enbiggin Act for 2017. National aren’t really gaining more votes. Just a thought.
The Greens asking National for a memorandum of understanding is a tad strange. Key constantly puts them down.
Labour needs to sort out its leadership and move rapidly into partnership .
Well, that's a given solely because of their numbers but I would hate to be in their shoes so I wont say how I think it should be done. It cant be that easy to expect all opposition parties to come together when they all have bottom lines they wont cross and the fact that they are different parties is exactly because of this. So many compromises required , wont be easy.
and it’s far from over.
Because they are all still there. The likes of which ,one became Prime Minister of our Country.