Posts by Russell Brown
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I tried your survey and had trouble entering the 1 to 7 sections, well more than a couple of entries
It's forced, so that you can't tick the same ranking for more than one line. Would that be the problem? You should be able to go back to it and amend your answers.
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Okay robbery, what happened that affected you in the 2003 Act was that the definition of a "document" in the act was (quite rationally) extended to include electronic documents, such as CDs (and, for that matter, websites - the National Library may even harvest this actual discussion). At the same time, the number of copies required was reduced from three to two.
So yes, you're down $12 per new release for legal deposit for posterity. Join the club: legal deposit currently applies in more than 130 countries, and has done for many years. I'm quite sure the Turnbull will have a useful purpose for the money it has saved.
At the same time, the music on the Hallensteins ads you keep mentioning is earning its creators a fairly large cheque. This is possible because the state protects their copyrights by law. That's the social contract.
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what reduced burden. I haven't heard hide nor hair of a legal requirement to deposit anything until the fancy booklet arrived in the post, (2 to 3 times if my memory serves me correctly) and prior to that the good old alexander turnball library came to the party every time with full retail purchases of 2 of everything this country made. they offered the cash and didn't ask for freebees. It seems funny and somewhat draconian
Who knows? I went and looked up the legislation and that's what it said. Your mileage may vary.
But, again, you were completely wrong to claim that legal deposit "only applies to the arts sector", and I remain of the view that legal deposit is an entirely conventional and reasonable quid pro quo for the protection and support of the creation of original works.
I've happily complied with it as an independent publisher (and if you think the money in music sucks, try independent book publishing). It serves the public good.
Its charming that you chose the wonderful american media techniques of sidetrack the point and the intent of a comment with semantics.
Eh?
I don't for a second believe NZ on Air spend more than they administer
Well why did you say this then?
but then it wouldn't be a government funding body if it didn't spend more on administering its funding than it dished out in support.
That's what you said, it was wrong, I took issue.
As I said you're a surprisingly good journalist in the media and tech field and I give you respect for that, (a respect that you don't give others in their field of experience, as noted by your parting shot),so while we're throwing stones I personally found you were shit at music journalism (RIU letters pages were full of negative responses as I recall). I very rarely see any insight into the art of music in your music writing and thats always annoyed me, so I find it rich again that you see fit to de chip my shoulders.
You have an opinion on music and culture which is cool, but there are plenty of others who are equally or better equipped to make calls in this field than you, no offense meant. how about discussing the issues instead of shouting them down.
Thanks for the review; I won't bother being as rude in return, but I feel bound to note that I've spent many thousands of my own money on recorded and live music.
I think there are flaws in the music funding system and we've discussed them on this site at some length. But that really doesn't have much to do with most of what you're saying here.
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The whole arts issue in NZ is a lot more complex than you want to paint it and its cute that you chose to dismiss it as wingeing, but then its obviously not a central factor for you in your daily life, however to some people it is.
Actually, I think it's more complex than you choose to paint it. I don't mind you responding in strong terms, but the fact remains that the agencies you were impugning run a tight ship. They do not spend more on administering funding than they "dish out in support". That's nowhere near true.
My understanding of the 2003 Act was that it reduced the burden on publishers, by cutting the legal deposit requirement to two copies: one for preservation in the Turnbull and the other for access at the National Library.
Whatever, given the support that the law offers for the creation of original works through copyright, and the level of direct public support for the arts, it seems a reasonable sort of social contract; one common to countries like ours.
And legal deposit does not "only apply to the arts sector" -- it covers a huge range of documents, some of which cost rather more to produce than a CD.
You need to get the chip off your shoulder and think about what you're writing.
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Also, my Friends In England can testify that The Adventure of English is a really good documentary series. It unveils the rich history of our loveable bastard tongue. Also, Melvyn Bragg is choice.
Amen. It stands above most stuff of its kind, because of the way that Bragg engages you as a viewer, in his avuncular, yet oddly ageless, fashion.
Also (and I really must get the lads to make embedding images here as simple as embedding clips is), here is a particularly choice screen grab from the series.
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From Snotr, the new clips site from the Mininova people, and not identified as starring New Zealanders on their OE. But how could it be anything else?
Does anybody know these guys?
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Re supergroups, its not a big country.
its totally possible to know just about everyone making music in this country. interestingly the national library saw fit to seek and pass a law requiring every artist and label to give 2 copies of every release to their archives. the penalty for non compliance with what is essentially an artists tax being a $5000 fine.
for the amount of money it cost to draft that law produce and mail out their expensive booklet promote and police it they could easily have bought at full retail every copy of everything made in this country.Legal deposit requirements for national archives are part of the price of cultural citizenship, for goodness sake; they apply in every civilised country. It's been part of the law here since 1903.
so too with funding bodies. They could easily with the staff on hand and allocated funding be in regular contact with all players in the field and actively bring our music more easily to our ears, but then it wouldn't be a government funding body if it didn't spend more on administering its funding than it dished out in support.
Which funding body do you mean? NZ On Air, which last year incurred operational expenditure of $2.3m in the course of distributing $95m? Or the Music Industry Commission, which provides a range of services (including free legal advice for artists) on a budget of $600,000 pa? You might also want to check and see who's on the MIC board. What you've said is nonsense.
We are a small country, but we don't have to be stupid at the same time.
But we clearly place a premium on whingeing, it would seem.
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Weird, as in the giveaway itself - or that it's hard to imagine much of an overlap between his fanbase and the stereotypical Mail reader?
More the latter.
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I thought that James Duncan's solo set was a bit, shall we say, experimental? I suppose some people like that type of thing...
SJD was pretty good though.
You were there too? I met Heather Gaye after the gig.
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Russell Brown chats to the justifiably legendary Bill Direen about his past and present work.
Bill's more recent recordings are available from Power Tool Records and his literary works rest with Titus Books.
He also has a personal website and a Wikipedia article.
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