Posts by Bart Janssen

  • Hard News: Not yet standing upright,

    Just to note, as much as folks have been bitching about the waste of $26 million for this process ...

    Consider the cost of actually changing the flag

    Anyone want to guess how much it will cost to change every iteration of the flag in every government agency?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Not yet standing upright, in reply to sandra,

    Does he want people not to vote in a general election too?

    Pretty clear he doesn't want Labour voters to vote.

    But yeah NOT voting for a flag is the stupidest idea

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Not yet standing upright,

    One of the things I like about New Zealand is most folks don't give a rats arse about the symbols. You don't see kiwis stand up with hand on heart the moment the first bars of the anthem ring out. There is no blind reverence of the flag.

    We are proud of our country not proud of some symbol.

    So yeah our current flag is kinda meh and our anthem is a god bothering dirge, but hey who cares, our country is still quite good really.

    None of that appeals to a politician, it means they can't command loyalty with a symbol they actually have to provide substance.

    Our current flag isn't great, it could be better ... some of the designs proposed had potential to become something New Zealander's could accept as a better symbol of our country and our people.

    But a cynical and mostly incompetent government screwed up the process and we got some logos.

    I'll vote for the hypnoflag and then vote for our current flag because none of the National caucus approved options deserve to carry New Zealand into the future.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Not yet standing upright, in reply to steven crawford,

    Technically those aren't leaves, they're leaflets on a compound leaf.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Not yet standing upright,

    Everyone seems to think it's important that a child could draw the flag.

    Nothing horrifies me more. What are you trying to do, indoctrinate your children into blind loyalty to a flag? It's been done before a whole bunch of times, with horrifying results.

    Flags should be for adults. They serve multiple purposes but children should not be the subject of flag propaganda - leave that for the USA.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Hard News: Not yet standing upright, in reply to James Littlewood*,

    well you have to have something that all New Zealanders can relate to

    Actually you have to have something New Zealanders WILL relate to

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: The silent minority, in reply to Emma Hart,

    having my own little n=1 lab specimen in the house

    Isn't that the reason to have children?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Up Front: Stand for... Something, in reply to Russell Brown,

    This process is off the rails.

    Last step in the process was National party caucus making the decision.

    Hence we have a crappy business logo in National party colours.

    Precisely what was intended in the first place.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: BURGERGASM,

    Another Auckland Burger suggestion.

    Ralph's just on the corner of Valley Rd and Dominion do a pork belly burger (with crackling!) that is well worth the trip ... also curly fries and jalapeno poppers!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

  • Speaker: BURGERGASM, in reply to Vivid,

    In America people die eating burgers, that doesn’t happen here.

    Every case I've heard of from America has been traced back to kill chains that were not being inspected properly or at all.

    People also die eating sprouts.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 3802 posts Report Reply

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