Aiming to win the election hinges on being able to form a formidable opposition and a credible alternative.
They should all be the Labour Leaders. What a sensible bunch we have there. Why cant we just all get along and lead as a group ? :)
AND to reduce the amount of strife between Labour and the Greens (which I think affected the support of both parties negatively).
If you take Jones out of the equation I couldn’t see much issue between the 2 and (like, when Roger Douglas was in Labour), Jones was always denigrating the Greens and not very supportive of Labour either, but just watching the address in reply debate now, Cunliffe was great and Bill English is fucking horrible . I just don’t understand why the Greens could even begin to think working with National is a sane idea. First up today, day 1, take away workers right to have a break at work.That’s a National first Policy that will pass.How could the Greens work with a Party prepared to do that?
Now the Greens can say “We offered to talk and they said no” and that’s the end of it.
So they were happy to wait until after the Election to try deal with National but not Labour? I recall Greens wanting Labour to make a deal with Labour before the Election.
I was just looking at Audrey’s take on the Parties yesterday
I was pleasantly surprised to see Labour are only down 2 seats and JohnKey is only up 1. Although I think any loss is a bummer, Labour don’t look as bad as I anticipated.
Winston was the winner. So JohnKey is in a sense the loser. It was the right and middle support that shifted from National as much as Labour. National got 1, Maori lost 1. I suspect Seymour is being prepped to enbiggin Act for 2017. National aren’t really gaining more votes. Just a thought.
The Greens asking National for a memorandum of understanding is a tad strange. Key constantly puts them down.
Labour needs to sort out its leadership and move rapidly into partnership .
Well, that's a given solely because of their numbers but I would hate to be in their shoes so I wont say how I think it should be done. It cant be that easy to expect all opposition parties to come together when they all have bottom lines they wont cross and the fact that they are different parties is exactly because of this. So many compromises required , wont be easy.
and it’s far from over.
Because they are all still there. The likes of which ,one became Prime Minister of our Country.
I’m actually not hugely interested in the outcome of the leadership contest, I just want to see Labour consistently communicate with the public in ways that move the needle.
Me too. I'd be happy if they just announced someone . Everyone's got strengths in different ways, including Cunliffe, Shearer and Goff. It needn't be about personalities. I'd like it to be about the Party policy. I'm sick of it always being how the Media frame it and who did what to who gossip. How about they look at the Government and the tricks they are up to instead.
but in political terms can we do much more than build the TPPA into the critique of National’s economic management for use in the next election?
Yes, still, now is important too. Last night we heard on the news from Phil Twyford regarding the measley 5 houses National have built under their housing plan but nothing of the thousands they plan to sell. Public opinion will be like Dexter x back a page, "Ineffective opposition..". So if the whole Party could get up front and centre about this bunch of arseholes running our Country into the ground , even along the lines of ,"while NACTional MUF have the numbers, we strongly oppose...yada yada yada..." the perception will be that Labour are concerned about the people and all issues that concern, not just their members etc. If they wait until 2017 they, and damage dished will be forgotten.
Everyone seemed to have a good time at the KA on Sunday, Grant and Jacinda included, (although the muso's inside having to stop for the speech expressed their annoyance at being blindsided) but they were speaking to the already converted. The candidates could use their opportunity to try pull in a fair few undecideds while they have media attention. Especially if they are taking advantage of the likes of Maureens generosity by having their rallies in a public space during a blues session. Be nice to see a bit of fighting spirit against this Government.
For Labour, this means focussing on people, issues and policies that meet voters where they are.
Can they also have a look at what Team Key are jumping all over while they figure out whose going to lead them somewhere.
I totally understand them wanting to find a leader, my only concern is that urgency will be a Team key friend while they are busy choosing someone. Can anyone remind me for why Labour did change its way it chose a leader? Maybe as each candidate gets interviewed by media etc, maybe they could throw in why the likes of the TPPA are dangerous to our democracy. I don't want to have to fly to Oz to get my prescriptions in the future, jus' sayin'
Welcome to the Hunger Games.Yeh that’s right ; we are all in the game now.
Panem et Circenses. look over there! ---> It's a flag!