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  • James Green,

    Hilary -- surprised you can't get feijoas to grow in wellington. I have two trees down here, and they produce pretty prodigiously <whisper>although about 6 weeks later than every else</whisper>

    And I have a suspicion that DB's lawsuit against GreenMan (I mean I'm not suing them), might be a bit of any publicity is good publicity. We were laughing in the supermarket the other day over the large white sticker proclaiming "cyclist" the other day.

    Actually, the other day we were watching Parliament TV (hadn't tried it before), and they were discussing the new Patent Bill. Suspect that if its provisions also go as far as copyright, then DB would have no such claim over a name like Radler in future. Actually, seems the Patents Bill is just for patents.

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 682 posts Report Reply

  • Hilary Stace,

    Thanks so much for feijoa tips.

    Re gem irons. Ruth Pretty- shop or mail order -sells gem irons with recipe. I can provide gg recipe via PA if required.

    Wgtn • Since Jun 2008 • 2009 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Hilary- Aunt Daisy's gem recipe:

    "2 cups of flour, 2 eggs, 1/2 cup pf sugar, I oz. butter, 1 cup of milk, 3 tspns. baking powder. Beat eggs and sugar very well, melt ounce of butter and add. Then add milk and other ingredients. Have gem irons very hot, and grease with butter or lard. Cook in very hot oven. Makes 24 gems.zz'

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Ooops! zz an optional nothing-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Mahal,

    I attempt to shop at the local butcher (Seaview Meats, Milford - appalling website, but AMAZING sausages and wonderful staff) and greengrocers (run by a family whose ethnic origin I can't identify by their language or appearance, but there's a teenage girl running the till after school 90% of the time, and a couple of under-5's pottering about the place). My budget doesn't quite stretch to doing this all the time, but then again that's why Pak'n'Save was invented.

    I would love to expand my wine horizons beyond "The boss gave us a bottle of that for Christmas and it was nice" or "Hey, we had that at so-and-so's house". However, I am too chicken to actually speak to people in wine shops, and wine language appears incomprehensible to the untrained eye...

    Also, I have an excellent feijoa jam recipe. It disappeared via my coworkers quite rapidly last time I made it. Not quite as fast as the banana nut jam, but fairly quickly nonetheless...

    Auckland • Since Apr 2007 • 31 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    O, and important, "half-fill' each gem iron with mixture."

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    I would not be surprised if supermarkets pricing is specifically predatory towards small green-grocers, butchers and bottle shops but generally these small owner operator type business’s go to the wall when the supermarkets set up in their area. This in turn is bad news for small market gardeners, growers and other small scale suppliers.

    In Grey Lynn, it's quite impressive that Fruit World can survive across the road from a big Woolworths. I suspect it might even have an influence on local Woolworth's pricing sometimes. But I have found farmer-direct market produce a revelation this year, on both price and quality.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18520 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Heh! Whether you're a vegetarian or a full-enjoyment/no qualms/into-it-all meateater - the Farmers' Market in Dunedin is a a total MUST!

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    Or a full-enjoyment/no qualms vegetarian.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16281 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    What I find salient in the local context, is that the Wine Vault is bit of a hike from the Chevalier, and in my mind, only compounds the AkCityCouncil's estimate of over 90% retail flight from a community of comparitive affluence to neighbouring suburbs.

    Oh lordy, what could happen in the Chev in a retail sense .... if only.

    I've almost given up thinking about it now, but try this: a Saturday morning market in the shopping centre car park. The westernmost inner-city suburb presents the best of the West's food and drink and art and craft. It'd be like Nelson, only with cheaper restaurants.

    Parking? Loads of it, unused, behind the shops on the south side of the road.

    But yeah, at the moment, not so much. The deli in the arcade is well worthy of support, as is the Mud Pie Cafe. Organic Planet has gone off the pace a bit -- I got annoyed at buying out-of-date goods.

    But Westmere's only just over the border, and I've cycled to Grey Lynn on shopping trips. It'd all easily fit inside single suburbs in several main centres.

    It's not so much suburban as neighbourhood retail flight.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18520 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Sacha - yup. The fruit/nut/veg range is almost - incredible. And, unfortunately, only there, on the day-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • nic.wise,

    I'm assuming a few other wellintonians have said it already, but Wine Seeker is, without a doubt, teh schiznit.

    To the point where we order wine for kiwi's from them, from London. Bank transfer, badaboom. Two cases of champers for a friends wedding, on time, with a couple of free ones thrown in. Or ship it over here for the few bits we _need_, but can't get here.

    Drop in and have a taste. I did often when working in the building above them :)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 83 posts Report Reply

  • Amy Gale,

    Amy - a drop scone, from my brief research, seems to be a pikelet.

    Regional variation is always with us, but the item I call a pikelet (whole egg foam method, cooked in frying pan) is not the same as the one I call a drop scone (cut in butter method, cooked in oven).

    Pikelets have a cakey (or sometimes rubbery) texture. Drop scones have a crunchy outside and an interior that is ... hard to explain. Damply cohesive?

    tha Ith • Since May 2007 • 451 posts Report Reply

  • mark taslov,

    Ok, I'm sorry Russell and Sacha I'll drop, it thought it seems like e slightly eccentric localized culturally conditioned behavioural pattern and was interested to see if anyone was up for discussing its origins or manifestations.

    I know I would love to see marijuana decriminalized at least. I am a firm supporter of maintenance programmes for othr drug use but I not so sure 'bout the meth, just because I don't like "go fast" and I suspect brains don't either.

    I think it is essentially decriminalized for the recreational user, in that you'll see very few cases in court solely related to simple possession. But there are still some ridiculous sentences being handed down for growing the stuff. I feel that the Hawkes bay shooting yesterday really highlights a need for reform there. If people are being driven to murder in order to protect crops, that's ample evidence to suggest that the black market value of a relatively harmless weed has either far superceded the value of human life, or perhaps and less likely that it turns the user into paramilitary killer. The current situation is largely a US intervention and I doubt things will change significantly as long as that country continues to hold our own by the strones.

    your taxed dollar • Since Mar 2008 • 1295 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen Judd,

    Apropos butchers: I would like to put in a good word for the halal butcher in Newtown. Very reasonable prices and the meat is well-trimmed so you don't pay $$$ for fat (cf the supermarkets who seem to hide wodges of fat tucked into the plastic tray where you can't see it). No pork, of course.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 2919 posts Report Reply

  • Glenn Pearce,

    a Saturday morning market in the shopping centre car park.

    Countdown would probably not be too happy about it in "their" carpark, they're open 8am-8pm 7 days.

    Auckland • Since Feb 2007 • 344 posts Report Reply

  • Glenn Pearce,

    And while we're on local matters.

    re: Westmere butcher, we're loyal customers too but the the "B" rating from the council always makes me flinch a little as does the shanty town they've constructed out the back

    Auckland • Since Feb 2007 • 344 posts Report Reply

  • ScottY,

    Best use foe feijoas - freeze the pulp, then when winter hits make Apple and Feijoa Crumble (basically just Apple Crumble with feijoa in). Divine.

    Actually, the other day we were watching Parliament TV (hadn't tried it before), and they were discussing the new Patent Bill. Suspect that if its provisions also go as far as copyright, then DB would have no such claim over a name like Radler in future. Actually, seems the Patents Bill is just for patents.

    Yes, nothing to do with trade marks. Have a look here if you're interested (apologies for shameless promotion of employer). Rich Lock can bore you to tears with more detail.

    Yorke of The Atatu • Since Feb 2009 • 787 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock,

    The problems resulting from meth-amphetamine use have excavated since it started being called P, and was made a more seriously illegal substance.

    You got a licence to drive that cause-and-effect? Source, please.

    Rich Lock can bore you to tears with more detail.

    In these troubled financial times, I am willing to exchange advice in return for feijoa cocktails. Better make them strong, though. I might be easy, but I'm not cheap.

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2328 posts Report Reply

  • barnaclebarnes,

    It's called terroir living: low food miles + high quality produce and advice = the good life.

    Aren't most Waiheke wines made from grapes from other regions? While some of the wines may be local a lot only have a token splattering of local grapes.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 84 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    Oh lordy, what could happen in the Chev in a retail sense .... if only.

    I've almost given up thinking about it now, but try this: a Saturday morning market in the shopping centre car park. The westernmost inner-city suburb presents the best of the West's food and drink and art and craft. It'd be like Nelson, only with cheaper restaurants.

    Parking? Loads of it, unused, behind the shops on the south side of the road.

    I think Lindsay Mace at Native Agent in Kingsland is working with a group in Grey Lynn looking at opening up a farmers market in the area. I'll pass on your idea to her.

    I see that the Western Bays Community Board have passed a resolution regarding a farmers market in Grey Lynn, so at least the idea is floating around Council now.

    I've been to farmers markets in Dunedin (small and very friendly), Auckland (well, it's Auckland) and Whangarei (which is an absolute gem - very Northland and good supply of honey, cheeses, fruits/veges, and quite large), but Wellington was a puzzle - a basic range of fruit/veges, repeated over the whole site. Weird.

    I used to work at Glengarry, in Newmarket, right opposite the mall, which had Woolies in it, with its massive wine/beer area. We did fine with that competition - what gave GG the edge was a good selection of stuff, and the training we got - massive amounts of it - which meant I was exposed to alot of stuff and could confidently recommend stuff. It comes back to service, which you don't get in a supermarket.

    I did have a customer (who worked in the area) who switched to getting wine from the supermarket, because it was cheaper, but I used to stop by his store occassionally and basically tell him that I had a six pack of wine ready for him, which I knew he'd like, and was at his price point. He was happy with that.

    The amount of smaller/good quality wine shops, good butchers, and fruit/vege greengrocers (there's a term the young ones won't know), along with good bookstores, fromageries, patisseries, etc all point to a resonably healthy food/good living scene outside of supermarkets (as evidenced by the number of people mentioning good stores in this thread) which is good to know.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 639 posts Report Reply

  • JackElder,

    Moore Wilson is the best.

    Moore Wilsons is also the cheapest place in Wellington to buy Lego. They have the full range, normally 15-20% cheaper than anywhere else. Word to the wise.

    Wellington • Since Mar 2008 • 708 posts Report Reply

  • Ben Austin,

    Has anyone seen Sanguinello/Blood Oranges on sale in NZ, or know if they are grown in commercial quantities? I've become addicted to them and I don't think I could go back to regular when I return home.

    London • Since Nov 2006 • 869 posts Report Reply

  • Dinah Dunavan,

    The Foodlands in Kaikorai Valley (Dunedin for the geographically challenged) has the best fruit and vege prices around. Nearly always 10-50% cheaper than any of the supermarkets. I understand that there is a similar store in North East Valley.

    Last year they had 99cent pineapples while the supermarkets were selling them at $2.99-5.99. In January the tomatoes were 99cents a kilo, about as cheap as I've seen tomatoes outside of Edgecumbe.

    As far as I can judge the Kaikorai store buys the bottom of the barrel stuff from the auction. So sometimes the fruit is a bit squishy but I don't mind ripe fruit.

    Dunedin • Since Jun 2008 • 170 posts Report Reply

  • Zippy Gonzales,

    Moore Wilsons is also the cheapest place in Wellington to buy Lego.

    I hope it's not bootLego, Jack. </boom boom>

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 186 posts Report Reply

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