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Hard News: See you Latta, Bob ...

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  • Russell Brown,

    I wrote another blog post ...

    I am also minded to wonder how many times the Family First family violence fairy tales were reported as something like fact by news organisations that could actually have asked some real questions about them.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18693 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    I am also minded to wonder how many times the Family First family violence fairy tales were reported as something like fact by news organisations that could actually have asked some real questions about them.

    Follow up question: Why aren't people who can't -- or can't be bothered -- distinguishing fact from fiction not being asked to explain themselves to the BSA or Press Council?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11859 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    I am disappointed that this is not as I hurriedly surmised a thread lamenting Bob the baby's departure back to the fertile plains of the mainland. As you were.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16470 posts Report Reply

  • dave crampton,

    The Prime Minister's task force has made some sensible suggestions about improving communication with some parents, and I think now is the time for journalists to focus on those

    Such as? If you want journos to focus on these, could you have perhaps mentioned what these suggestions are ?

    welli • Since Jan 2007 • 143 posts Report Reply

  • Rebecca Williams,

    oh dave, russell may be many things, but he is not the source of all info for all journos.

    find the taskforce suggestions yourself! you only had to listen to the 5.00pm news on national radio to hear most of them.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2007 • 102 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    From Sccop:

    The recommendations include:

    • The establishment of a new parent support helpline within CYF so that parents who have questions or concerns about how they are being treated can be dealt with more quickly.
    • The immediate publication of guidelines for social workers dealing with child abuse reports that involve smacking, and a subsequent briefing for all CYF social workers.
    • A requirement for Police officers and social workers to provide families with specific information on what to expect, what their rights are and what they can do to question what is happening when they have to deal with Police or CYF.
    • The collection of more specific information on the application of S59, so a clearer picture is available of how the law is operating in practice.

    But mostly, the scare stories and cause celebres were, to one degree or another, bogus. Family First has no credibility left.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18693 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    oh dave, russell may be many things, but he is not the source of all info for all journos.

    Actually, I was busy making delicious pizzas, with mozarella from Harvest and bases I got at the Grey Lynn Farmers' Market yesterday. At least they weren't vegetarian.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18693 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    "I should have been able to separate Latta's professional competence from his entertainment work, which I don't greatly like."

    I strongly disagree. Lattas professionalism is compromised every time he does his entertainment job. The best the man can do is sooth the minds of the worried well, or good parents.

    I'll eat my words (print them off and add salt) if I hear of one violent offender having a change of heart as a result of Latta's change of spots.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1144 posts Report Reply

  • philipmatthews,

    And, it goes without saying, to stop getting Bob McCoskrie on the speed-dial as if his opinion counts for anything at all.

    And yet TV3 went to McCoskrie for his comments on the Latta report. If there was ever an example that demonstrated that the journalistic he-said/he-said "balance" model is broken, it's this story.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 642 posts Report Reply

  • Tony Parker,

    "I should have been able to separate Latta's professional competence from his entertainment work, which I don't greatly like."

    I strongly disagree. Lattas professionalism is compromised every time he does his entertainment job. The best the man can do is sooth the minds of the worried well, or good parents.

    Having seen him in the flesh with 700 other HB teachers I too find it hard to separate his professional and entertainment work. I found he tended to belittle both kids and adults and talk of and to them in a manner that I as a teacher could not possibly get away with. It was supposed to be a talk that gave us ideas on how to deal with difficult children but I came away with nothing that I could really use in the classroom that I wasn't doing already. And I soon got tired of his infotainment routine.

    Napier • Since Nov 2008 • 232 posts Report Reply

  • Brickley Paiste,

    I got at the Grey Lynn Farmers' Market yesterday

    Has it at all improved or is it still Kraftbomb with a different name?

    Now THIS is journalism! Check the second par! Oh yes!

    Surely the EMA is pumping up rhetoric against personal grievances before the Tories gut them.

    BTW, no word on Stephen Cook's grievance yet. I wonder if they settled and the determination is no longer pending? The silence is strange.

    Since Mar 2009 • 163 posts Report Reply

  • Andy Fraser,

    Last week's Listener had Latta on it's 'powerful people' list.....gave up on it at that point...

    Invercargill • Since Jun 2009 • 33 posts Report Reply

  • Ross Mason,

    Golly. Giving children the same protection rights as adults in legislation might actually have worked!

    We might be witnessing the first small steps to social sanity, a first step towards sending the message to future parents to treat children with the care they deserve.

    And dare I say it might, in time, see a reduction in crime.

    They couldn't be connected....could they?

    Upper Hutt • Since Jun 2007 • 1491 posts Report Reply

  • sarah duckworth,

    Looked up pyschopathy: Wikipedia says it is a personality disorder whose hallmark is a lack of empathy ... Lacking in conscience and empathy, they take what they want and do as they please, violating social norms and expectations without guilt or remorse".[8] "

    Psychopaths are glib and superficially charming, and many psychopaths are excellent mimics of normal human emotion;[10] some psychopaths can blend in, undetected, in a variety of surroundings, including corporate environments.[11]

    Doesn't this sound like Paul Henry?

    Since Feb 2009 • 5 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    "All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

    Arthur Schopenhauer

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1774 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia,

    If there was ever an example that demonstrated that the journalistic he-said/he-said "balance" model is broken, it's this story.

    There's noting 'broken' about the idea of balancing a story, but when you keep going back to a poisoned well whose only value is as a reliably outrageous soundbite factory that's a problem. Seems a bit of a no-brainer to me that you don't use a source who will keep burning you like some P-addled pyromaniac.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 11859 posts Report Reply

  • Morgan Nichol,

    At least they weren't vegetarian.

    That wouldn't necessarily be such a bad thing, you know. (Vegan pizza, on the other hand. Oof, what's the point?)

    Auckland CBD • Since Nov 2006 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    (Vegan pizza, on the other hand. Oof, what's the point?)

    Not sure about vegan pizza, but I make shit hot (number of compliments = proof) vegaquarian pizza. Anchovies are often necessary. Once you live on meatless, a whole new world opens up for Vegetables.Pizza, no exception :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 5988 posts Report Reply

  • Jolisa,

    I am disappointed that this is not as I hurriedly surmised a thread lamenting Bob the baby's departure back to the fertile plains of the mainland.

    Hee. I read it that way too, except I thought Russell had written "See you, Latte Bob." Quite the sophisticate, that wee lad.

    Auckland, NZ • Since Nov 2006 • 1410 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha,

    He's the boss.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 16470 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Another lying account dutifully taken up by the news media.

    Here's Family First's misleading version, which grants that the man charged is "no saint". No, he isn't.

    These people really give me the shits.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 18693 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Reeves,

    Vegan pizza---a real Neapolitan classic called Marinara--simple and really tasty. The best pizza I've ever had (though it was in Rome :-) ).

    Near Donny Park, Hamilton… • Since Apr 2007 • 94 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Stevens,

    I can't bear Latta's tv style - stupid, jokes based on idiotic stereotypes, all designed to turn himinto some sort of hero it seems.

    So I was also worried about him being in this role, but he seems to have done it ok.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 229 posts Report Reply

  • Christopher Dempsey,

    I got at the Grey Lynn Farmers' Market yesterday

    Has it at all improved or is it still Kraftbomb with a different name?

    Just a note; the Grey Lynn Farmers Market occurs the first three Sundays in the month. The last Sunday is reserved for the Kraftbomb market.

    As I found out two Sundays ago.

    Parnell / Tamaki-Auckland… • Since Sep 2008 • 642 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    Prov 13:24: "He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes (diligently)."

    Prov 19:18: "Chasten thy son while there is hope, and let not thy soul spare for his crying."

    Prov 22:15: "Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him."

    Prov 23:13: "Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die."

    Prov 23:14: "Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell."

    Prov 29:15: "The rod and reproof give wisdom: but a child left to himself bringeth his mother to shame."



    The Lord has spoken.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1774 posts Report Reply

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