Capture: Two Tales of a City
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Hebe, in reply to
Sad. Wonderful writer. A Summery Saturday Morning is my favourite: from here, of here, and resonates everywhere it is read before bed.
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Chris Waugh, in reply to
Margaret Mahy is no more-
Heart broken.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
suite...
It’s all good in Papamoa!
Is that near the Dunedin suburb of Couchburn?
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Gudrun Gisela, in reply to
Hebe will i see you on Sunday at the implosion? Hope so. Start 8 am weather depending.
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Hebe, in reply to
will i see you on Sunday at the implosion? Hope so. Start 8 am weather depending.
Oh yes. The males of the household are planning a big blokes' breakfast then to roar off to town in a large 4WD (they'll have to make do with the people mover) in time for the pyrotechnics. (At a funeral today, an unscientific survey of my cuzzies showed an unhealthy enthusiasm among most males present for explosions and the intention to go along; so I pick a big crowd in spite of the early hour.)
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Hebe, in reply to
the Dunedin suburb of Couchburn
Excellent. North Dunedin's new name. A logo?
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
Down Town...
on Sunday at the implosion
It's Sunday week isn't it? August 5?
if only we could tag a giant Brownlee on the sides first!
Why don't they just set fire to it and let it collapse into its own footprint, works every time apparently (well, only 3 in New York so far)...
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Lilith __, in reply to
Painting the town
if only we could tag a giant Brownlee on the sides first!
Nah, I don't see him as a rubble rouser...but perhaps a Flintstones theme?
Bam-bam and Pebbles, I'm thinking.
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Gudrun Gisela, in reply to
You are on to it. Implosion too quiet for a start. Good thing though done and over with within ten seconds.
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Hebe, in reply to
My beloved has expressed a wish to see a series of buildings wired up to implode sequentially.
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I was thinking I'd like to go to this. But then I'm wondering if I might find it upsetting -- ground shaking, stuff falling down....
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Joe Wylie, in reply to
A chunk from Koyaanisquatsi. Couldn't find the original with the Philip Glass soundtrack. -
Hebe, in reply to
Will the ground shake d'you think? I wonder if all the charges will blow at once, or it will be a series of pops. Daddy was a dam-builder so I have a genetic fondness for heavy machinery, engineering and dynamiting things.
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Lilith __, in reply to
Will the ground shake d’you think?
Can't see how it wouldn't...I dunno, it might be sort of cathartic!
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There would have to be some vibration of ground as the material imploding will be hitting the ground before dispersing in a cloud formation.We will all know something on Sunday morning.
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Hebe, in reply to
There would have to be some vibration of ground as the material imploding will be hitting the ground
It's billed an an implosion, not an explosion. The charges could be placed so the building falls in on itself and crushes the lower floor or two. Possibly dust and thumping would be minimised. I don’t know much; where’s an engineer when you need one?
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Explosives generate shockwaves. Surely?
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Hebe, in reply to
Well it will not be silent; just saying that it may not be too bad. I wonder where the viewing area will be -- Latimer Square?
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Explosives generate shockwaves. Surely?
The amount of explosives is very small (50 kg I think?) and given that it's inside the building will hardly be noticeable.
The large building falling to the ground in pieces will have a bigger impact on the environment, but I don't think it'll shake anything. It will break into smaller pieces as it collapses.
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Gudrun Gisela, in reply to
The west side is already open to the elements. Where they got furniture and stuff out of and on to trucks.The best view i think will be from Latimer Square.
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Hebe,
Alrighty, I will reopen the thread: I like the general ideas in the central city plan announced tonight, compacting the CBD and framing it in green are good. The exception is the convention centre placing. Swapping the convention centre and performing arts centres' sites would be better. What do the rest of you think?
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Russell Brown, in reply to
Thanks Hebe. I'll either write something or persuade someone else to for the morning, but feel free converse away here.
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Hebe,
Further to my previous post: Putting the convention centre opening out on to the Square makes me feel colonised, again. Why should 26 conventions a year of the likes of orthodontists be given a pre-eminent position in my city. Sure conventions add to the local economy, but they are not the huge money-earners for locals: low-wage jobs, restaurants, big-budget hotels are the downstream jobs and businesses created.
The city's heart should be home to more than a cash register. If the performing arts centre were opening on to the Square, then combine it with a renewed Cathedral and a short hop down to the Art Gallery and eventually a working Arts Centre, and there would be reason for locals and tourists and convention-goers to use the area.
My other quibble is the concentration of emergency services. Why, when they will be parked on a fault line? Where are the back-ups planned -- or are any back-ups planned? The earthquakes have shown the value of decentralising essential infrastructure. Now we know we live in an active seismic zone, let's hope the planners remember it too.
Otherwise, I like the potential the plan shows, and it looks like some of the grid streets will be reworked. The green strip along Manchester St is an inspired solution to the post-earthquake wasteland. I'm crossing my fingers that the next election carrot is extending the Avon green ribbon out to the estuary.
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Down Town...
That idea of a covered stadium* in Tuam St/Lichfield/Madras/Barbadoes block looks like it would create a huge void, I can't imagine there being things on in the stadium that often - didn't see the needed parking precinct nearby or light rail terminal... nor for that matter any large new inner city housing precincts...
Clever of them to go with Precinct rather than Zone, Churr Chitsch is pretty much Zoned out nowadays*and what happens to the new revamped 100-day stadium in Addington, do we just toss it away, give it back to League and not let them use the underused stadium in town where all the people will be and what will be happening in The Westpac Stadium? or the Town Hall I think they are over-stadiaing their case.
The era of the stadium may be waning as bandwidth and home screens increase in size...Nice to see Gudrun out in all weather recording the scene outside CCC tonight, I gotta say that the organisers of the rally urgently need some good chant writers. or rappers...
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This picture is my favorite. To make a family leave their place on a cold rainy winters night and protest for over two hours with children as young as those is heartbreaking. That the blueprints for rebuilding the central city takes priority while families are still in limbo and struggling financially is reprehensible. Politicians either national or regional are ignoring the dilemma of the eastern suburbs.
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