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  • chris, in reply to chris,

    ETA:

    Public Enemy does not currently have any concerts scheduled in New Zealand in 2015. If you’re ready for a road trip, Public Enemy, currently has 14 gigs booked in cities like Bournemouth (United Kingdom), Providence (United States), Dublin (Ireland), Leuven (Belgium).

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to chris,

    Which isn’t so much a meaningful law as a coat tailing device. In 1991 Flavor Flav pleaded guilty to assaulting his then-girlfriend Karen Ross and served 30 days in jail, lost custody of his children. In August 1992 Public Enemy played in New Zealand. In 1993, Flav was charged with attempted murder and imprisoned for 90 days for shooting at his neighbor.

    Flav is a goddamned mess all right. They're lucky they can still tour with him, but it's probably because he's been able to plead everything down to misdemeanours. Note that he wasn't convicted of attempted murder, which is why he only served 90 days.

    Ironically, Chuck D is teetotal and doesn't even drink coffee.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Not knowing any of the above I felt quite lucky and a little confused to have caught them headlining with Nine Inch Nails at the Ministry of Culture sanctioned Beijing Pop Festival in 2007.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Danielle, in reply to steven crawford,

    Twitter is killing this place.

    I think Twitter is great for this place because it allows people to a) form their thoughts before they're posted here (which is what I do quite a lot of the time) and b) removes a lot of noise that might be kind of unhelpful at PAS (if I become annoyed with something I can tweet about it and then come back here to be more polite, having cleansed it from my system).

    Charo World. Cuchi-cuchi!… • Since Nov 2006 • 3828 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to steven crawford,

    Twitter is killing this place.

    Not so sure about that. What I can express on Twitter, I can express here in an expanded format.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5420 posts Report Reply

  • Rich Lock, in reply to philipmatthews,

    Sometimes that violence might be fantasy or catharsis.

    Was chatting to someone about this the other night . Vigilante and revenge fantasies are popular across culture's entire spectrum, pop or not. Hamlet, Titus Andronicus, The Punisher, Batman, Dirty Harry, the entire premise of 'Life on Mars'.....

    back in the mother countr… • Since Feb 2007 • 2728 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    Twitter is a bit like the smokers conversations that happen outside the door, during the main event. I used to join in for a bit of passive puff, but I’ve run out of steam.

    It’s whatever works; I get the concept of using Twitter for instant rant relief. And yes, it’s good skills to take five before submitting comments to any public record - or Twitters commercial fire hose.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4327 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Young, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 566 posts Report Reply

  • philipmatthews, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Yeah, it is. And you come up against absolutes very quickly.

    I was thinking yesterday that one of the problems with Twitter is that it forces you to take sides when you really want to be in the grey area in the middle.

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2007 • 656 posts Report Reply

  • izogi, in reply to Craig Young,

    TVNZ:

    Ms Fox's opinion is at odds with former Green Party co-leader Dame Tariana Turia

    Huh?

    Wellington • Since Jan 2007 • 1139 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald,

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1344 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    As this affair descends slowly into farce, pseudo-bishop Brian Tamaki naturally supports Brown’s visit. Maori performer Mika agrees and sees this primarily as a race issue.

    Let’s face it, if he wasn’t black he probably would have been let in because there’s been a lot of white people – celebrities – who have been let into New Zealand in the last few years with crimes a lot worse than this. Chris Brown, we want you to come to New Zealand.

    Doh!

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    And now Brian Tamaki ...

    Tamaki released a video message after being asked how he felt about the "Chris Brown saga" and about his "previous abuse - violence, so-called".

    He said people needed to have patience to accept others even though they had made "mistakes even if it comes to physical violence".

    And:

    If Brown was granted a visa to come to New Zealand, Tamaki wanted him to attend the church's Map Up programme which helped those with alcohol, drugs and violence issues.

    The church said it would write a letter of support to accompany Brown's application to Immigration New Zealand.

    In the same story, Mika:

    Mika issued a video support message, pointing to his Mika Haka Foundation and saying it worked with predominantly "young brown people" who had been convicted of crimes.

    "Let's face it, if he wasn't black he probably would have been let in because there's been a lot of white people - celebrities - who have been let into New Zealand in the last few years with crimes a lot worse than this. Chris Brown, we want you to come to New Zealand.

    "I am supporting the tour of Chris Brown because I know what he's doing now - or what he is trying to - repair and change his life if a great thing for young brown men. If we want to stop crime ... want to stop domestic abuse, we need role models like Chris because young brown guys listen to Chris Brown."

    Where are all these white celebrities who've been let in recently after crimes "a lot worse" than Chris Brown's? Names, please?

    This is just witless people being persuaded by Jevan Goulter.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to izogi,

    Ms Fox’s opinion is at odds with former Green Party co-leader Dame Tariana Turia
    Huh?

    I blame Avatar
    people are now colour blind it seems
    - blue/green/brown/beige/blanco -
    with short attention spans...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7892 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I know what he's doing now

    Oh really, Mika? Do share.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19688 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Russell Brown,

    If we want to stop crime … want to stop domestic abuse, we need role models like Chris because young brown guys listen to Chris Brown.”

    Bitch, please. In other news, the latest round of the Serco Follies involved the alleged serial rape of a trans woman who should never have been in a male prison in the first place. So please excuse me if I think the last thing anyone in this country needs as a role model is someone who threatened to kill a "faggot" over a parking space. Ever. I'm glad that Mika would be cool being around that kind of person, but I sure as fuck don't. There's no reason already vulnerable Maori/Pasifika LGBT youth should be expected to take his reformation on faith.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald,

    .
    An award-winning Auckland architect will not be convicted after his wife broke her arm when he pulled her from a wheelchair.

    ....but he escaped any black mark against his name partly because of the "extraordinary and very sad" circumstances of the case.

    On March 10, the defendant yanked her, causing her to fall from her wheelchair and break her arm.

    "He held her by her arm and pulled her forward and she fell out of her wheelchair," Judge Grant Fraser said.

    "We're not talking about him striking her or an attack to the head, we're talking about an action in frustration which might almost be accidental.

    The judge said the consequences of Paterson's actions were serious but the incredible stress he was under with his wife's health concerns, all while raising two young sons, provided an explanation to what occurred.

    He said a forensic psychologist's report before the court made for "harrowing" reading.

    His lawyer Robert Collis said Paterson's standing in the architectural community would receive a severe blow if he was convicted and it would also restrict his chance to travel for work.

    Police told the court Paterson had no previous convictions and the judge ruled it would be unfair to mark his clean criminal record.

    He should have been convicted.

    I personally find the narrative that the stress of having a disabled wife, two young sons and a reputation to maintain excuses this repugnant.

    It makes an interesting study of 'framing' , this particular article doesn't it?

    "...his wife broke her arm when he pulled her from a wheelchair."

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1344 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald, in reply to Rosemary McDonald,

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1344 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Rosemary McDonald,

    So there is 2 Pat(t)ersons, Architects in 2 days before the Courts.The extra "t" pleaded guilty Just to save confusion and

    Defence lawyer Michael Lloyd initially asked for an adjournment so he could enlist the services of an expert to review the police's evidence and entered a not guilty plea on behalf of his client.

    running someone over is an accident, not the same, but a " not guilty " suggests to me ,he thought about shirking responsibility. I know it's expected from the Lawyer but still...
    Do we need another piece of legislation to make these assaults that Judges find a bit harsh judging on to at least acknowledge it was assault? The fine line this judging is taking seems to favour a good Lawyer and prominent person over the rest .
    This guy, seems to be another one

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Do we need another piece of legislation to make these assaults that Judges find a bit harsh judging on to at least acknowledge it was assault?

    and another one...http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11544421

    Musician avoids assault...gets permanent name suppression...

    The incident happened at a work Christmas party when the man's then partner began arguing with a third party.

    "We had both been drinking and I reacted badly and handled her the wrong way which caused her to fall and hit her head on the gate," he said.

    Though there were some denials about kicking the woman in the side as she lay on the ground, Judge Fraser stressed he had accepted the summary of facts in its entirety with his guilty plea.

    The name of his band and his ex-partner were also suppressed.

    The defendant previously told the court his band had recently got their big break with a European label agreeing to release their album.

    "To get an opportunity like this outside New Zealand is a pretty big deal," he said.

    "It's what I've been working for my whole life."

    After extensive enquiries by the judge, the man described the band's sound as "very bluesy, early 70's inspired, psychedelic rock".

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1344 posts Report Reply

  • chris, in reply to Rosemary McDonald,

    the sum total of his punishment was a $130 court-costs bill.[…]Judge Grant Fraser accepted a conviction or any negative publicity might jeopardise the record deal.

    Must be a meagre deal. We face stiffer penalties for going 21km/h over the speed limit.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to chris,

    Must be a meagre deal.

    Tiny, I would wager. No one I know can think who it is. It feels like something they sold the judge.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22756 posts Report Reply

  • Jason Kemp,

    In recent news - this story is back -

    He has recently had problems getting visas in England and Australia.

    Outcry as Chris Brown applies for NZ visa

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 366 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Chris Brown has lost his appeal and been been banned from Australia. As NZ automatically excludes those banned from another country, it looks like he won't be landing on our shores any time soon.

    It would have been preferable if NZ had stood up to the plate, rather than sitting on our hands and waiting to see what the aussies would do.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1388 posts Report Reply

  • Rosemary McDonald,

    After watching this... http://www.nzherald.co.nz/gossip/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501135&objectid=11523987 (I only watched it just now)

    Let him come, I say, and he can hob nob with the Bishop wherever that footage was filmed....on the edge of the fiery pit.

    Good god...what was that in the background?

    Waikato, or on the road • Since Apr 2014 • 1344 posts Report Reply

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