Hard News: Do Want?
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If there were no market advantage in buying CUPs Apple would not have bought it.
There was clearly a technical benefit -- and a financial one for Sweet, who now gets paid by Apple -- but as Michael says, they can't deprive anyone else of the code, even if they wanted to.
The advances in device support since Apple bought the code from Sweet in 2007 have been notable for Mac users. If I never have to look at HP Image Zone again, it'll be too soon.
But if you're going to hate Apple for owning an open-source project, best save some hate for Google, IBM and the other big companies who do the same thing.
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That Hitler... he says what we're all thinking.
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Just because Hitler was against it doesn't mean I'm for it. You can't trick me that easily.
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I think the market advantage to buying it was in that linking exception they added*. The market advantage to hiring the developer was that he'd add what they wanted to it first, and he was already an expert on the code. Also, like Keir said, the test page now says "Apple Inc" on it. I guess that's advertising.
I don't really like seeing whole codebases bought up like that, but I don't think they did anything especially evil here. If I'd contributed something to it before I might be a little miffed about the new linking exception.
* I would like to know what that's used for, though; linking against system libraries is allowed by the GPL anyway. What else have they used that needs it?
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iNever thought that iShould see
a product name joked of like the Wii
a product whose name ends in pad
and to preface did not "Think" to add
a pad about an A4 page
iNspires the critics to outrage
a pad with bookshop in the wing
tho' lacked the custom 'One more thing'
iTs touchscreen iS like that of kin
and external keyboards are made of win
iTs easy to make a poem bad
but only Jobs can make iPad -
Well I'm sold. Why have I been resiting for so long, I should have known it was futile.
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Has anybody linked yet to the one where he glues a lot of ipods to the back of a cafeteria tray? It seems we've covered The Onion otherwise.
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> Wilson, Hopeful, Barnes and others -- has it occurred to you that such considerations are more valuable to many of us than your emotional investment in hardware and software systems that are irrelevant to our needs.
Burn!
lol. Steve, good to hear from you. Irony: It was your own son with whom I had my extremely poor iPhone first experience. But I'm certainly not emotionally attached to any of my hardware, other than my MR2. Like I said, Apples have their place. So far, that place has never been my place. Might get an iPhone this year though, my 6 year old phone is long overdue for retirement.
So, if the NZ publishing industry doesn't pull the pin, when can I expect to be reading the sequels I've only been waiting my whole life for? NZ needs its Herge, and you the man. </whipcrack>
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Next out of the rumor mill... The iWant.
It has no buttons or ports and boy is it shiny and priced just inside the maximum you would pay. Its shiny case constructed of pure Unobtainium polished to a shiny shine. Not only is it shiny it is also smooth and reflective at the same time, yes, finally, you say, true multitasking. And silent, so silent it makes no noise you wouldn't even know it was working. Our new "Silent Alert System"® will not disturb those around you, or even you, as you wonder at the clarity of the picture on the totally reflective screen, a picture so lifelike it is like looking into a mirror, it moves with you as you brush your hair off the Apple logo emblazoned on your forehead.
People will love you and envy you because you have what iWant.
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Hi Gio. Thanks for that. Isn't this thread wonderful?
Umm, isn't getting to page 9 in 24 hours some sort of record? Just curious. -
Are you looking at the views by any chance? There are 30 posts to a page and this is the ninth page hence less than 270 posts. Not a record for PAS by a long long shot.
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Jack, have a search for <sotto voce> 'Copyright Must Change' </sotto voce> or as we like to call it 'The Scottish Thread'.
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But there are some bits that need clarification for me -- will this thing tether to my iPhone? If so, I won't need the 3G version.
No one seems to know yet. I'm hopeful though.
If it tethers, will that include feeding GPS data?
I doubt it. I think that if you want to use this as a satnav (and it'd make a great one) you'll need the 3G version or some sort of GPS addon.
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'The Scottish Thread'.
ZOMG. I guess that'll have to go in the pile of soporific reading to fall asleep over my iPhone, or maybe it should be used as punishment in the new Three Strikes system. 'Damnation, without relief'.
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Are you looking at the views by any chance? There are 30 posts to a page and this is the ninth page hence less than 270 posts. Not a record for PAS by a long long shot.
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But 270 posts in ~24 hours does qualify as lively.
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But Corporations don't act on heart. They act out of wallet, first and foremost.
The current Apple strategy will never force Corporations to change.
In my experience, corporations are politically driven first, and rational second.
We demoed a mobile application to a large corporate customer last year. Their first question was "What does it look like on an iPhone ?". No one at the meeting owned an iPhone, and someone had to rush around the floor until they found someone who did.
Apple has a certain zeitgeist which seems to be able to defy some rational constraints.
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Der WeirdMac or the Apple Desert "Core"...
that's not a very PC er, review...
I mean sure IBM tabulated the camps...what will the RSA say?
no Macs for Auckland Grammar
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But 270 posts in ~24 hours does qualify as lively.
If only Tony Veitch had launched this thing...
(The Copyright thread as I recall was long but not terribly fast.)
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Next out of the rumor mill... The iWant.
Already exists. However not much use in NZ last time my wife checked.
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It looks like it does lots of things really well, but as I would only want or use 1-2 of its functions, it is far too expensive for what it would provide me in utility. Thats not to say it can't provide a good amount of utility to other people though.
But the cost benefit analyis falls too far on the cost side for me to consider it these days.
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The guy at Patently Apple led up to the launch with a series of "tablet prophecies" based on his reading of Apple patents. He's going through his list and placing the original patent art next to photos of the corresponding iPad features.
Probably the most interesting is the IPS touchscreen, for which a patent application was published only three weeks before the launch of the iPad itself.
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And a quarter of a century after the CD was introduced, vinyl LPs are a growth category in the music industry.
People are going mental for lovely old analogue stuff.
It's things like LPs, Moleskine notebooks, cocktails made from 1930s recipes, Chemex coffeemakers. It seems like a reaction against a highly digital world - when your life can be shoved into a neat little i[gadget], I reckon there's a desire to have something to hold, something physical that you can smell, feel, and admire.
So now that we don't have to buy a physical CD to own music any more, it's no wonder that lovely sticky vinyl is something that people now want to posess in addition to digital versions of that music.
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I shall wait for the cheap Chinese knock off.
which must be days away.
which improved things for HTC.
The oft-stated notion that the iPhone has been the smartPhone killer is just odd, at least where I live. In Asia (population about 3bln, give or take), outside of Japan, the Blackberry and HTC dominate utterly and the iPhone is an also ran. In Thailand there are about 20,000 SmartPhones sold a week and I think the figure for Apple was less than 10%. Bluntly, iPhones are simply not seen as hip. Blackberries and HTC (Android or not) phones are.
And the recent Gartner research doesn't paint the rosy picture for Apple's phone share globally by 2012 that one might believe, although I do think the iPad has just given all such research a nudge into the unreliable now.
But, and it's a huge one, the iPhone completely revolutionised the ground that all the market share winners occupy. Does anyone think that the Touch or Nexus would look the way it does without Apple's influence?
And I hate my blackberry so much I want to cry sometimes on the Blackberry community forums is hilarious.
Heh..seen the Apple forums recently ;)
The other way of looking at it is that Apple under Jobs has been a brilliant product innovator
Indeed. Which is why I love my MacBook Pro so very much. I held out for years but will never, ever, ever go back to a PC. I shoehorned my wife away from a Compaq this last week into a MacBook Pro and she's smiling as I type.
My Mac does just about everything I need to do so much better than my old Win box. It purrs, it glides along and it performs tasks. I love it because I love machines to work, and it very much does*.
Oh, and yep, I do so want an iPad but I'm happily in the wait till 2.0 part of the market.
*This is tempered right now by the very shitty support I received last month from Apple when it died a few weeks out of warranty and Apple were best described as devious & dishonest in their response to the known fault that they sold the machine with. A battle royal ended with a free repair but only because I wouldn't accept no and kept on demanding to speak to the next person up the chain when I hit a wall. I put this next to the repair needed on the old HP, which was handled perfectly and without issue or cost even though it was well outside warranty.
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Graffiti spotted in Chch today:
The best things in life
- aren't things!and sometimes they are free
vis-a-vis - a new Free Magazine - called
Tally Ho - launches tonight (friday 29) in Christchurch
with an early-start all-ages gig
at Franz Tormers (where the Green Party and Sammy's used to be in Bedford Row)
Featuring Nevernudes (AK), The Body Lyre (Welli) and Ouch My Face (Melbourne), it’s going to be a night to remember! Doors open 7pm starts 7.30 - 8ish - a mere $10.
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People are going mental for lovely old analogue stuff.
Yeah, I'm still a fan of the biro and paper notebook. Incredibly reliable and flexible. My graphic designer mate says he still mocks up with pen and pencil, then scans and uses software afterward - he found it just made his creative juices flow better.
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