Hard News: Finally, the Teapot Tape?
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merc,
Key, I wont text you so then you can say...you haven't been in contact with the PM
Banks, yeah that's good (or words to that effect).Crikey we have nothing to worry about here they really are doing it for the uniform.
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No apologies from me
Oh no I fully understand from the perspective of the media, my sigh was more a cynical sigh at the coincidental timing.
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While freedom of the media is an important aspect of this issue (as is privacy) responsibility of the media is just as important. It appears as if a major story was made out of very little. A strong case for deliberate political interference could be made.
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Key has told Radio NZ he's unlikely to ask YouTube to take down the recording.
I've been considering removing the links from the post above because I'm about to go out and wouldn't be in a position to respond with dispatch to any demand to remove them.
I note that although several journalists have published the links via Twitter -- that was how I found out -- the major news organisations are holding off.
Thoughts?
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Russell Brown, in reply to
It appears as if a major story was made out of very little. A strong case for deliberate political interference could be made.
That's not "political interference", it's reporting on an election campaign. If Key et al had not taken the action they did, everyone would have been able to tell for themselves that there wasn't a great deal on the tape. That's the reason it became a big story.
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bob daktari, in reply to
it seems many media outlets are only just learning howe this hyperlinking stuff works - ie most herald and stuff stories about (or sourced from) the net never carry a url, nor acknowledge their sources - this seems to be slowly changing
welcome to nearly 20 years ago for the rest of us gatekeepers of news
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Sacha, in reply to
Oh, he is in charge all right
Joyce would be delighted to hear you believe that.
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Sacha, in reply to
ask someone else with moderator permissions to be ready to edit your post?
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Righto. I've removed the links and I'd be grateful if y'all could refrain from publishing them in comments.
I may put them back, but I'm out for hours and I don't want to be in a position where I can't remove them should it prove necessary.
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Sacha, in reply to
It appears as if a major story was made out of very little.
By National's actions, then Winston's. Remember that the big media outlets didn't actually release the information.
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Graeme Edgeler, in reply to
I’ve been considering removing the links from the post above because I’m about to go out and wouldn’t be in a position to respond with dispatch to any demand to remove them.
I note that although several journalists have published the links via Twitter – that was how I found out – the major news organisations are holding off.
Thoughts?
The major news organisations referring to the existence of tapes are behaving just as criminally as people publishing them.
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A reminder of what actually happened:
John Key upped the ante by laying a complaint with police over the tea- pot tapes [...] minutes after he had laid out National's not-so- sensational 120-point economic plan
The longer today goes on, the more upset I am with everyone.
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The police saw fit to append this to today's press release.
Editors note:
Police reiterate that it is an offence to disclose private communications unlawfully intercepted. This offence, is punishable by up to two years imprisonment where any person discloses the private communication, or the substance, meaning, or purport of the communication or any part of it, or discloses the existence of the private communication if he knows that it has come to his knowledge as a direct or indirect result of an offence against s216B Crimes Act
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Key's main concern today seems to be to apologize to any elderly voters who were offended …and his comments on the tape confirm how obvious the device was… anyone still think the police complaint was made on principle?
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Sacha, in reply to
Yet there has still been no legal ruling on whether the conversation was in fact private or public, despite Ambrose seeking such a judgement.
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Ian Dalziel, in reply to
mission accomplished...
Well Key always said it was about the principle, so perhaps he was telling the truth about that much.
Key's an investment banker johnny, so I'm sure that when he's talking with Banks he probably meant the principal and whatever interest and leverage he could gain...
...and I'm guessing these recordings weren't stored on Mega Upload then...
hmmm, Mu the mythical lost continent of the Pacific...
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Police reiterate that it is an offence to disclose private communications unlawfully intercepted. This offence, is punishable by up to two years imprisonment where any person discloses the private communication, or the substance, meaning, or purport of the communication or any part of it, or discloses the existence of the private communication if he knows that it has come to his knowledge as a direct or indirect result of an offence against s216B Crimes Act
Then surely Key should have "on principle" made a complaint to the police against Winston Peters .
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linger, in reply to
But that would imply that putting "Key" and "principle" in the same sentence could have some kind of validity.
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merc, in reply to
Good point, http://www.medialawjournal.co.nz/?p=537
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Marknz, in reply to
You don't think HoS's hysterical write ups had anything to do with why it became a big story? My usual attitude to the media is "meh", but boy they really tried to actually create something here rather than simply report it.
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Al Thompson of Scoop has tweeted (@althecat) that he has taken legal advice. They have published, so presumably the advice he has been given is along the same lines as Steven Price (link given above by Merc) who strongly rebuts any wrongdoing in linking to the file/s.
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alobar, in reply to
I don’t read HoS but i still followed the saga simply because it was interesting… and the fact that Key made sure they couldn’t be legally published gave the media a lot more fuel , but that was obviously preferable to causing voters offence
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Sacha, in reply to
yeah, they might have voted for Winston or something :)
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Cracks me up that the police want to interview the other patrons in the cafe. "Did you notice anything out of the ordinary happening that day?".
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Sacha, in reply to
"how much did you overhear"? #privatemyarse
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