Hard News: Finally, the Teapot Tape?
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Sacha, in reply to
I doubt nearly snatching defeat from the jaws of victory was part of it. Still, we all have our off-moments.
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Islander, in reply to
Yes.
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IMHO Key and Banks come across as cringe worthy and asinine.
As a nation we need to find something for people like Banks, Peters and Brash to do in their twilight years that does not involve national politics.
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linger, in reply to
The cock-ups were simply rampant. Here’s what I think were the most, uh, prominent, in sequence.
(1) Key holding a media event from which he then excluded the press.
Muppet move.(2) A freelancer leaving a microphone behind as he was hurried out the door – can we assume, for the sake of argument, that that was accidental?
(3) Key overreacting wildly to the existence of said recording, and calling in the police. Again, muppet move, and not an endearing muppet either.
(4) Newspapers failing to state clearly enough that the main reason they weren’t going to publish the tape was because it wasn’t really that interesting. (Yeah, playing up a possible story is business as usual for the MSM, but it doesn’t serve the public at all well.)
(5) Media and opposition alike letting themselves be distracted away from more important (if less sensationalised) topics.
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Graeme Edgeler, in reply to
The police saw fit to append this to today’s press release.
Editors note:
Police reiterate that it is an offence to disclose private communications unlawfully intercepted. This offence, is punishable by up to two years imprisonment where any person discloses the private communication, or the substance, meaning, or purport of the communication or any part of it, or discloses the existence of the private communication if he knows that it has come to his knowledge as a direct or indirect result of an offence against s216B Crimes Act
Did the police just disclose the existence of a potentially illegally-recorded private communication?
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nzlemming, in reply to
Again, muppet move, and not an endearing muppet either.
I'm torn between Animal on P, or Oscar on a diet. Then again, Ernie can be a spiteful prick when you hide his rubber duckie.
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nzlemming, in reply to
Did the police just disclose the existence of a potentially illegally-recorded private communication?
Delicious, isn't it?
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Sacha, in reply to
cage-fighting
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Graeme Edgeler, in reply to
Delicious, isn’t it?
Yes, but not really. The police have an exemption from this bit of the law for the purposes of investigation. Parliament sometimes doesn't stuff up completely :-)
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Kumara Republic, in reply to
cage-fighting
I'd go 1-up on that... The Running Man NZ edition.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
(5) Media and opposition alike letting themselves be distracted away from more important (if less sensationalised) topics.
And that is the only part of this I really care about. Because it kind of sorta really mattered that no half-way credible economist or policy wonk I can think of believed a word of English and Cunliffe's rosy projections of when the nation's books would return to the black.
I'm not so sure I like the word "distracted", which carries the connotation that the media went Teapot Crazy and fixated on turning Auckland Central into a cat fight through some kind of involuntary reflex. That's nonsense, but as I've said a lot it's funny how our media outlets have their editorial decisions made by magic elves when everyone else has gone home, isn't it?
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Rich Lock, in reply to
Hey, that’s a d-vice device.
So, cock-up rather than conspiracy?
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Because it kind of sorta really mattered that no half-way credible economist or policy wonk I can think of believed a word of English and Cunliffe’s rosy projections of when the nation’s books would return to the black.
Their predictions were based on the Treasury forecasts, which Treasury emphatically stood by whenever they were questioned, and then revised less than a week after the election.
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DexterX, in reply to
cage-fighting
Armed with buckets of slime - the nature of the Act party implosion.
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Craig Ranapia, in reply to
Their predictions were based on the Treasury forecasts, which Treasury emphatically stood by whenever they were questioned, and then revised less than a week after the election.
Yes, so it would have been useful to spend say 10% of the space dedicated to TeapotMania reporting on how Treasury arrives at these estimates and why they're so often *cough* reality-adjacent since they were the foundation of both major party's claims to fiscal credibility.
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Sacha, in reply to
which Treasury emphatically stood by whenever they were questioned, and then revised less than a week after the election
Yes, where's the investigation into that piece of election-influencing behaviour?
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Tom Semmens, in reply to
It was bumped for a bikini photo of Sonny Bill Williams latest piece of fluff.
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Sacha, in reply to
have to love the word "introduced" #pimpin
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It seems very clear to me that what Key fears (feared) most was being ridiculed foe such an inane un-Primeministerial conversation better suited to a pair of adolescents. So what to do? Use the police to try and hide it all. Shame on him!
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Ross Mason, in reply to
At about 7:50 it sounds like the recorder is being put in a bug
heh.
I wonder. Did both of them see the "recording device" and think the other one was recording the conversation? It occured to me that there was a lot of deferring "Prime Minister" and the non verbal "comments" that made me think they were aware of it. Then not until it ended and JB did not pick it up that JK figured it wasn't JBs. Then he opened the bag and lifted it partially out and told those around him that it was a recording device.
Just thinking.
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merc,
What's in the bag Prime Minister?
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linger, in reply to
is that a recording device in your manbag or...?
meanwhile, MSM gaze rests firmly on pressing concerns of whose cock-up whom... -
merc,
I was thinking it very silly for the whole security thing for the PM to suddenly reach into an unknown bag. My goodness living in London no one went near unattended bags, they even had bomb proof rubbish bins to chuck them into.
Meantime the PM is not only jawing next to an unattended bag on his otherwise clear table (teacups excepted), he's also dumpster diving it while his security look on.
Banana PM hour.
As for the MSM, bought and paid for obviously. -
linger, in reply to
in Key’s case, such reckless inattention to personal danger is at least preferable to his reckless inattention to democracy, governmental responsibility and everything else about his job that doesn’t get polled or photo-opped.
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can we avoid implying we'd like nasty things to happen to anyone please - even if they are people we thoroughly disagree with.
eta: perhaps especially when they are people we thoroughly disagree with.
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