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Hard News: Moving right along?

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  • martinb,

    It's great we now have a template for the terms of independent audits and investigations into allegations and appearances of the potential for impropriety in the public sphere.

    Auckland • Since Jul 2010 • 203 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to martinb,

    It’s great we now have a template for the terms of independent audits and investigations into allegations and appearances of the potential for impropriety in the public sphere.

    We always did. You should really read the legislation.

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    The review is being conducted independently, by Ernst & Young

    Ah cool.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    Given that the mayor heads the council that employs the Chief Executive of the council, I don’t imagine how any investigation by him could be called independent. Power over etc.

    Oh, FFS… if you take that to the reductio ad absurdum you can’t trust Ernst & Young either, because who commission them and, I assume, set the (as Russell pointed out extremely broad) terms of reference? Not that the usual suspects are going to accept any result that doesn’t damn Brown as a corrupt whore-monger anyway…

    It’s great we now have a template for the terms of independent audits and investigations into allegations and appearances of the potential for impropriety in the public sphere.

    What nzlemming said. If we have a “template” here, it’s one we shouldn’t be too pleased about. I know I’m in the minority here, but where’s the independent audit and investigation into the newspaper and blogger that decided to have a good crack at nullifying a democratic election because they didn’t like the result?

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Jan Farr, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    Well I agree with you Craig, so the minority's expanding.

    Carterton • Since Apr 2008 • 395 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    I know I’m in the minority here, but where’s the independent audit and investigation into the newspaper and blogger that decided to have a good crack at nullifying a democratic election because they didn’t like the result?

    As in Leveson or Finkelstein? Better still, I can't think of a better watchdog for this industry segment than the Commerce Commission.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5418 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Oh, FFS… if you take that to the reductio ad absurdum you can’t trust Ernst & Young either, because who commission them and, I assume, set the (as Russell pointed out extremely broad) terms of reference?

    No, I'm quite happy with Ernst & Young. Just pointing out that if the CEO was doing the review, it can't be considered independent.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Lisa_J, in reply to Craig Young,

    “It takes two people to commit adultery, though, Lisa.”

    Yes, I know. That’s why, in the absence of threats, coercion, being underage, or suffering from some sort of intellectual disability or mental illness, I don’t see her as a victim in this relationship, at all, and find any suggestion that she is one (not that you are saying that but it has been said or suggested by others) to be worrying, implying as it does that an adult woman in full possession of her faculties who decides to have an affair with a married man is not a fully independent actor in her own destiny, but rather, has a child-like need for protection. This seems to me to represent some sort of step backward for womankind.

    Each of them has to face the firestorm, the one that she herself, unlike Hester Prynne in the Scarlet Letter, unleashed through her revelations.

    The suggestion that she may have been coerced, through pressure perhaps bordering on blackmail, into making her revelations by one or more members of Palino's mayoral team is a different matter, which is why my interest lies in that direction.

    Auckland • Since Oct 2013 • 8 posts Report Reply

  • david kinniburgh,

    Interesting.. in the latest on this ongoing drama ( the gift that keeps on giving) TV3's comment sections are liberally filled with judgmental "Look at Len"s . A bit of checking shows that many of those contributors also inhabit the Whaleoil site - the very one that engineered the story. The very one that talks about "the whale army". Looks like a concerted effort by a blog site to organise <<media saturation>> and sway public opinion in the desired direction. A first?? or have I just been asleep under a rock for too long??

    Auckland • Since Jan 2012 • 29 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie, in reply to david kinniburgh,

    Looks like a concerted effort by a blog site to organise <<media saturation>> and sway public opinion in the desired direction. A first?? or have I just been asleep under a rock for too long??

    Dunno, but I do recall the fevered flush of anticipation in political boy-talk circles back in 2005 when an online poll had Destiny taking six seats in the upcoming election. Nothing to do with Bishop Brian directing the flock of course.As a younger & wiser head than mine occasionally reminds me, it's only the bloody internet.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • david kinniburgh,

    Well spotted.. both of those fine upstanding God Fearing men seem to have the same messiaic delusions.. that they unquestionably know whats best for the world in general and you and I in particular. And thus the ends justify the means... Oh well I guess its all part of life's learning curve... "Bloody internet ???".. its now a UN basic human right...which makes the US trawling of ALL internet communications so interesting.. track an individuals communications and you define that individual ... apropos of this: an example of good internet journalism here:

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/interactive/2013/nov/01/snowden-nsa-files-surveillance-revelations-decoded#section/1

    Be nice if NZ could present to that standard :-)

    Auckland • Since Jan 2012 • 29 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to david kinniburgh,

    Blog rolling...

    “the whale army”

    Pod people,
    herd, but
    never seen

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7889 posts Report Reply

  • DexterX,

    Len Brown's dream for a third term of that sleepy hollow, Auckland town:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/home-utah-town-forgets-hold-election-20953744

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1224 posts Report Reply

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