Hard News by Russell Brown

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Hard News: Narcissists and bullies

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  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Kracklite,

    Did you have caller ID? Or do the boys in blue always ring anonymously?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5415 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to BenWilson,

    Please don’t . Contact Russell ASAP.

    It would be quite acceptable to have a steadying glass and *then* email me.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22747 posts Report Reply

  • Ana Simkiss, in reply to Kracklite,

    What the what?? This is bizarre and alarming, and cackhanded.

    Freemans Bay • Since Nov 2006 • 141 posts Report Reply

  • B Jones,

    I'd be looking at anyone who knew my handle with a bit of a sideeye after something like that. Possibilities that spring to mind immediately include someone having you on, or a very short chain of someone who knows someone at head office. If you're feeling generous, talking to a critic directly to get the conversation out of the media and into where it's influential is a legitimate strategy for dealing with a negative media issue, but not when it looks like a misuse of overwhelming state power. And surely if the chief of police was calling everyone who's been critical of him for a friendly chat, he'd have had a busy week.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 976 posts Report Reply

  • Juha Saarinen,

    Putting PRISM resources to "good use"?

    Since Nov 2006 • 529 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell,

    yeah exactly

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2605 posts Report Reply

  • Kracklite,

    A person identifying themself as Police Comissionner Peter Marshall phoned me on my private land line early this afternoon, named me and said that they wished to talk about the Roastbusters case. I immediately said that I had no interest in talking to hjm about it and hung up.

    I have no idea how this person found out my phone number and address and was able to identify me.

    I was frightened. I don't know if it was his intent to intimidate me, but that was the effect.

    I do not believe that this particular exchange is something to be kept private - instead, I think that it should be well known.

    However, while my privacy regarding my identity and location has obviously been violated, I request that people do not ask for or offer any clues.

    The Library of Babel • Since Nov 2007 • 982 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    A person identifying themselves as Police Comissionner Peter Marshall phoned me on my private land line early this afternoon, named me and said that they wished to talk about the Roastbusters case. I immediately said that I had no interest in talking to hjm about it and hung up.

    That does sound _so_ unusual I'd suspect mis-judged prank over what you're worried about.

    If Police Commissioners were to go intimidating people, that's not how they'd do it.

    And they really don't have time to phone up critics and make chitchat - I speak from experience here.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    If Police Commissioners were to go intimidating people, that’s not how they’d do it.

    And they really don’t have time to phone up critics and make chitchat – I speak from experience here.

    Point. They'd usually get the comms manager to do it - oh, wait...

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2929 posts Report Reply

  • Kracklite, in reply to Kyle Matthews,

    Even if it was a "prank", they knew how to find me at home. Think about that.

    The Library of Babel • Since Nov 2007 • 982 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    Only guessing here, but …

    - if this was a prank/crank, they wouldn’t phone back.

    - if it was real, then somebody (police PR person) would phone back – to explain. Because if’s it's real they’ll be explaining (or having to lie) to the media soon enough.

    So my money’s on prank, FWIW. Though that’s hardly a comfort, I know.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1319 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Even if it was a “prank”, they knew how to find me at home. Think about that.

    I meant prank from someone you knew. I don't know if your name etc is out there enough somewhere for them to attach your views on police to your name/phone number/address?

    If it was a police officer, that wouldn't be a prank, that would definitely be harassment. But it would be a mighty stupid police officer that not only phoned you, but pretended to be the commissioner. Way to short track your career.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • matthew,

    I see a 77 year old was sexually assaulted in Auckland last night. I can't help wondering if Peter Marshall thinks its vitally important that investigators ask that victim what she was wearing and whether she had had any alcohol that night.

    auckland • Since Nov 2013 • 22 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Update: Police comms say that Marshall has been responding personally to complaints made via the police website (which I’m told requires contact details).

    I’m wondering if he has been reading this site and simply didn’t grasp the line he’d be crossing by directly contacting Kracklite.

    But that’s just a guess.

    Update: I think we've wory out where the contact came from: not this site. But at best this is clumsy and inappropriate. People don't mceessarily want to be cold-called by the Main Cop.

    Kracklite says:

    I do think that Marshall has been currently acting in good faith, however
    inadequately. Still, being an experienced police officer, he cannot possibly
    have been unaware of the existing police culture of misogyny and I do not trust
    him because of that. My most generous but honest interpretation is that he's a
    fool - however, I know too many women who have been raped and they need to be
    protected from fools.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22747 posts Report Reply

  • Kyle Matthews,

    Update: Police comms say that Marshall has been responding personally to complaints made via the police website (which I’m told requires contact details).

    Well that is bizarre. Maybe this is why he didn't have time to be properly briefed for Campbell Live the other night?

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • Morgan Nichol, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Update: Police comms say that Marshall has been responding personally to complaints made via the police website (which I’m told requires contact details).

    This isn’t (as it was earlier described) “clumsy and inappropriate”, it’s AMAZING. It’s too bad we found out about it this way, because it’s incredible and might be a globally unique degree of access.

    I wish it hadn’t initially been presented like a (frankly really obviously bullshit) paranoiac fantasy.

    Auckland CBD • Since Nov 2006 • 313 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Morgan Nichol,

    This isn’t (as it was earlier described) “clumsy and inappropriate”, it’s AMAZING. It’s too bad we found out about it this way, because it’s incredible and might be a globally unique degree of access.

    I'm not sure have the CEO of the Police following up every complaint personally is really a good model.

    I wish it hadn’t initially been presented like a (frankly really obviously bullshit) paranoiac fantasy.

    Back off a bit on that, please. Kracklite has been pretty scathing on Marshall here in the past 48 hours. I don't think he was entitled to assume that a complaint lodged on the police website would be personally answered by The Main Cop, and he got very anxious about the call.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22747 posts Report Reply

  • simon g,

    So I was wrong.

    As a PR exercise by the police, this doesn't seem very well thought through. I'll leave it there.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1319 posts Report Reply

  • Craig Ranapia, in reply to Morgan Nichol,

    This isn’t (as it was earlier described) “clumsy and inappropriate”, it’s AMAZING. It’s too bad we found out about it this way, because it’s incredible and might be a globally unique degree of access.

    You know what, I really don't want to get a phone call from Marshall if he's just going to repeat the cringe-inducing display of deep denial on Q&A this morning. It would almost be funny how clueless he is about the crisis of confidence in his organization -- FFS, at one point this week the Police Minister said she was getting more reliable information from the media than the Police themselves! -- if it wasn't so damn serious.

    North Shore, Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 12370 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Parks, in reply to Martin Brown,

    That FB Roast Busters page which was up again is now down thanks to a call from a Kiwi director in LA to another Kiwi, Mark D’Arcy, who is now the Global CD of Facebook. He had it disabled immediately.

    It’s back up, with the message “They shut us down a second time.”

    And: "Facebook, fuck you. We didn't violate any of your rules on our second page. Happy Roasting."

    Maybe tell that to Mark D'Arcy.

    Wellington • Since May 2007 • 1164 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to Craig Ranapia,

    if it wasn’t so damn serious.

    This however is important and serious and as I would say to anyone, If Marshall calls, talk to him. Tell him how you feel . If you don't want to, tell him to call me. Seriously. I believe in educating those who are ignorant and I firmly believe even Marshall could learn from a lesson or two. I'll give him first hand experience of what it's like to be raped and first hand knowledge of why I wouldn't bother with him or his staff.
    Kracklite. don't be intimidated . I'll be your support person. If Marshall chose to ring you, I'd suggest you have constructive views that he may find helpful. Don't underestimate yourself.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Joe Wylie,

    The persecution of Arie-Smith-Voorkamp, and the subsequent blatantly clumsy attempts to intimidate the media, took place on Marshall's watch. In light of that, Kracklite's misgivings seem well justified.

    flat earth • Since Jan 2007 • 4591 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    This popped up. PAS gets read.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Brown, in reply to Steve Parks,

    I certainly will. Well, I'll pass it on. Thanks.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2013 • 136 posts Report Reply

  • Martin Brown, in reply to Steve Parks,

    Actually Steve, it's not up. You can enter that name in a field and see the name, but the page is disabled. Show me what you are seeing. Is it under a different name?
    Seriously, do a screen shot.

    Auckland • Since Mar 2013 • 136 posts Report Reply

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