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Hard News: Villainy and engagement

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  • Russell Brown, in reply to linger,

    Wouldn’t provision of a dedicated YouTube channel (or parallel public-access portal) address both concerns at practically zero cost?

    There's still a massive gulf between broadcast and online audiences. Anyway, gotta go, but I'll carry on this korero this afternoon :-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Semmens,

    There’s still a massive gulf between broadcast and online audiences.

    I would bet a Jamie Curry youtube video is viewed by a bigger audience than the X Factor, and she has never received one red cent of taxpayer's money.

    Maybe she should? She is funny, engaging, and very, very New Zealand.

    Sevilla, Espana • Since Nov 2006 • 2213 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Tom Semmens,

    I would bet a Jamie Curry youtube video is viewed by a bigger audience than the X Factor

    but not a bigger *NZ* audience.

    NZ on Air needs to somehow embrace two related functions (perhaps in more explicit joint work with other agencies) - showing us to ourselves, and showing the world.

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19686 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Natalia Kills says what we all thought was the case: they were "encouraged to be outspoken and things got out of hand." Yeah, duh.

    Willy Moon tweets in similar vein.

    New judges. Possibly a bit desperate.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22754 posts Report Reply

  • nzlemming, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Two more people I've never heard of. Wasn't planning on watching, anyway ;-)

    Waikanae • Since Nov 2006 • 2930 posts Report Reply

  • A C Young,

    Well you can't say they aren't efficient...now they're generating scandals before the judges even show up to work:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/67459859/new-x-factor-judge-shelton-woolright-defends-use-of-blackface

    *sigh*

    Wellington • Since Feb 2011 • 35 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH, in reply to Russell Brown,

    Natalia Kills says what we all thought was the case: they were “encouraged to be outspoken and things got out of hand.” Yeah, duh.

    Willy Moon tweets in similar vein.

    Still not an actual apology from either of them. Just a plea to be forgiven.

    Since Sep 2009 • 444 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to SteveH,

    Still not an actual apology from either of them

    Why would they apologise? They are insinuating that TV3 called for her behaviour and his "highly opinionated" comment suggests him also, therefore vis-a-vis they have nothing to apologise for.
    I don't watch or like this sort of programme but the show got a huge viewing the last couple of shows and I suspect the new judges will peak interest now so all in all TV3 will probably be happy that ratings will climb. Probably why Kills and Moon couldn't say anything until they were out of the Country, their contracts honoured perhaps.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Even if what they said was scripted, they still said it. They are the ones that did the bullying, and caused the hurt. They should be the first to apologise, whether or not others are also culpable. "I was just following orders" really doesn't excuse their behaviour.

    Since Sep 2009 • 444 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca, in reply to SteveH,

    Narcissists don't apologise. It's beneath them. John Key is a good example. I doubt that incident was scripted. It was so stupid. But they seem to be saying they were encouraged by management, which in their minds, (no matter how small) vindicates their behaviour. Bullies are bastards and we have them in most reality shows. I suspect the network looks for types of behaviour and that's one of the traits they get ,to spice things up as it were. Even a backlash like this has helped ratings for the network so as a gamble, it can pay off. The Network does an obligatory apology on behalf and try to move on. If Moon or Kills had apologised it would have sounded insincere because it would have been. Narcissists have ego not empathy.

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH, in reply to Sofie Bribiesca,

    Right. I wasn't really expecting them to apologise, though it would have been the smart thing to do. I was more stuck by how much of the media were treating their statements as apologies when they clearly weren't.

    Since Sep 2009 • 444 posts Report Reply

  • andin, in reply to SteveH,

    No. But he was trying to make a point in his limited journalistic way. And journalism is a limiting way of looking at life. His point? This:

    The affair is important because of what it says about the way we treat each other today. It demonstrated that the most vicious sort of verbal abuse has become widespread and acceptable to many.

    I just ask why? His answers are puerile.
    I'm better off working it out for myself. So are you.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1881 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to linger,

    Wouldn't provision of a dedicated YouTube channel (or parallel public-access portal) address both concerns at practically zero cost?

    I suspect also that computer-based devices still have a steeper learning curve than switching on a TV.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5418 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to A C Young,

    Well you can't say they aren't efficient...now they're generating scandals before the judges even show up to work:

    http://www.stuff.co.nz/entertainment/tv-radio/67459859/new-x-factor-judge-shelton-woolright-defends-use-of-blackface

    *sigh*

    What if he got something similar to the Haka Party incident of 1979 dished out to him?

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5418 posts Report Reply

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