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Hard News: We can do better than this

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  • Luke Williamson,

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    And a cartoon fresh from my brother who is in Spain and digesting this debacle long distance.

    Warkworth • Since Oct 2007 • 296 posts Report Reply

  • Ian Dalziel, in reply to Rob Stowell,

    Grease is the word...

    A smear is...

    ...reliant on there being 'grease' to push around in the first place!
    The 'oleaginous one' has proved a gusher - and he fits right in with 'Team K-Y'...

    Christchurch • Since Dec 2006 • 7881 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie, in reply to Ian Dalziel,

    Not content with getting her own way against all odds in Parliament, Judith Collins has named a new lane in the Chchch Justice & Emergency Precinct after a friend from Auckland...

    It might have been worse. She could have called it Oravida Lane.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1376 posts Report Reply

  • stephen clover, in reply to CJM,

    Interesting that the Herald have stopped all reader comments on any political stories the past couple of days….

    Interesting that WhaleOil has stopped casual readers from being able to browse members comment history...

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to stephen clover,

    There are such things as RSS feeds and crawlers.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Alfie,

    Another Herald story, this time from Brian Rudman on the Nats' hacking of Labour's computers - It's only dirty politics when someone else does it. Once again the comments are open.

    Dunedin • Since May 2014 • 1376 posts Report Reply

  • chinashop,

    The 'Simon Lusk's Plan' chapter in the book -- which has barely been reported -- states that there are MPs who are in Parliament principally because they were clients of Lusk, who worked with Slater to deter and even destroy their opponents in electorate selection races. Good people were really hurt.

    In all the interviews over the last few days, has anyone asked John Key if he was aware Slater and Lusk successfully manipulated candidate selections in his party, and what he plans to do to prevent that happening again in the future?

    I know it's not the worst thing in the book, but it seems so insidious and potentially damanging to the NZ political landscape in the long-run. Also, it's just gross.

    /delurking, hi!

    Wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 6 posts Report Reply

  • chinashop, in reply to Michael Meyers,

    If, as has been suggested, Judith Collins does have dirt on John Key, I don't think that would stop him sacking her now.

    Unless she's threatened him with mutually assured destruction.

    Wellington • Since Aug 2014 • 6 posts Report Reply

  • Paul Campbell, in reply to Alfie,

    Another Herald story, this time from Brian Rudman on the Nats’ hacking of Labour’s computers – It’s only dirty politics when someone else does it. Once again the comments are open.

    And he points out that Slater took credit card numbers too .... that's got to resonate with the Nat's "ordinary Mums and Dads"

    Of course it wasn't just Slater who got that information, so did the Nat's man on the Beehive's 9th floor

    Dunedin • Since Nov 2006 • 2605 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to chinashop,

    /delurking, hi!

    Hello!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22743 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to chinashop,

    In all the interviews over the last few days, has anyone asked John Key if he was aware Slater and Lusk successfully manipulated candidate selections in his party, and what he plans to do to prevent that happening again in the future?

    I've been surprised no one has mentioned it, because it's really significant -- and it will be the subject of considerable internal discussion in National.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22743 posts Report Reply

  • Michael Meyers, in reply to Alfie,

    Once again the comments are open.

    I sense a bit of a conspiracy theory building about the Herald comments. As far as I can tell after a scout around their site, comments only seem to be open on “opinion” pieces rather than “news” pieces.

    I’m not sure if this is a recent change or not. It doesn’t appear to me that it’s solely about stifling debate on this “left-wing conspiracy theory”.

    Update: I emailed the Herald to ask. The response is "Hi Mikey, we don’t allow comments on nzherald.co.nz news articles. That’s a long-standing policy. Our regional websites do allow comments on most stories."

    Wellington • Since May 2014 • 56 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford, in reply to chinashop,

    The ‘Simon Lusk’s Plan’ chapter in the book – which has barely been reported – states that there are MPs who are in Parliament principally because they were clients of Lusk, who worked with Slater to deter and even destroy their opponents in electorate selection races. Good people were really hurt.

    I read that National is going to be using graphic analogs of the National party rowing a boat in unison, and the opposition paddling in-succinctly and at odds with one and other. This will be an eye catching stunt if the PR company continues with the plan.

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4163 posts Report Reply

  • Bart Janssen, in reply to Russell Brown,

    I play politics like Fijians play rugby.

    I think the Fijian rugby players would be thoroughly pissed off to be likened to Slater.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 4449 posts Report Reply

  • Roger Lacey,

    Campbell Live picked this up last night showing a huge hole in the treasury forecast because the EQC has not reported its financial position. If the EQC shortfall is taken into account it seems to leave an enormous budget defect that the next government will have to deal with if they want to settle Christchurch earthquake claims before 2016. It would kind of take the shine off Bill English's "Look we're good economic managers, here's our surplus and if you're all good we might give you a tax cut" speeches.

    Whatakataka Bay Surf Club… • Since Apr 2008 • 148 posts Report Reply

  • Grant McDougall,

    Considering his overt, long-standing backing of the Nats, Mike Hosking's e-mails in recent years' would make interesting reading too, given recent revelations.

    Dunedin • Since Dec 2006 • 759 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Alfie,

    Another Herald story, this time from Brian Rudman on the Nats’ hacking of Labour’s computers – It’s only dirty politics when someone else does it. Once again the comments are open.

    I'd say the disabling of comments was a technical thing rather than a political thing.

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5414 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    s/Fijians/Americans
    s/rugby/war

    There, I fixed it.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • SteveH, in reply to Roger Lacey,

    It would kind of take the shine off Bill English’s “Look we’re good economic managers, here’s our surplus and if you’re all good we might give you a tax cut” speeches.

    The other thing that takes the shine off that claim is the fact that government debt has skyrocketed during these two terms of National government. It's gone from about $10 billion to over $60 billion (35% of GDP). Far lower debt levels (27% of GDP) were enough for the Abbott government to declare a "debt crisis" and use it to justify a draconian budget, though of course all and sundry called BS on that.

    Since Sep 2009 • 444 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Michael Meyers,

    Update: I emailed the Herald to ask. The response is “Hi Mikey, we don’t allow comments on nzherald.co.nz news articles. That’s a long-standing policy. Our regional websites do allow comments on most stories.”

    Yes, that's what I thought

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22743 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown, in reply to Bart Janssen,

    I play politics like Fijians play rugby.

    I think the Fijian rugby players would be thoroughly pissed off to be likened to Slater.

    If you're talking about the 15-man game, how the Fijians play rugby could be summed up as "without much success".

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22743 posts Report Reply

  • Kathy Fryer, in reply to stephen clover,

    Grrr that was a link to Whaleoil, a little warning please...I don't visit Whaleoil out of principle, no Cameron Slater for me.

    Auckld • Since Aug 2014 • 7 posts Report Reply

  • Dave Waugh,

    So now that Slater's admitted others often write blogs that he post's under his name, will he stand by his Helen Clark Painting tanty?

    And in a total aside I've been quite bemused today due to this blog bunfight that I am no longer able to tweet about media muppetry (a forever hot button for me) without being accused of political partisanship *sigh*, total wrong end of the stick pal.....

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 98 posts Report Reply

  • Kathy Fryer, in reply to Kracklite,

    Oh God Stephen, warnings please! For everyone else, it links directly to Whaleoil.

    Report

    Ha read this too late.

    Auckld • Since Aug 2014 • 7 posts Report Reply

  • Dave Waugh,

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 98 posts Report Reply

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