Hard News: What's on David Bain's iPod?
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WRT i-tunes and the differential with US pricing: would their be legal problems with a business set-up to either provide "The World" with a US billing address, or simply act as a "middleman" (like a "paypal" credit system) to extend US pricing (plus a few percent) to the world? Cos the US dollar don't look all that healthy medium-term, and I can't see i-tunes lowering world prices to compensate, so it's likely to get worse.
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Here are the converted prices, based on todays NBNZ tourist rates:
Thanks Rich - I was hoping someone would do that.
But on those figures, isn't the Euro non-DRM price slightly cheaper than NZ?
The UK price isn't surprising: CDs are bloody expensive there too.
BTW, how does iTunes work out domicile?
- IP address?
- Credit card currency?
- Billing address?
- Where you bought the iPod?
- All of above?Billing address of credit card. They'll deliver the bits anywhere so long as that's right.
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"Bohemian Rhapsody" comes to mind, all of it.
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Can the media please try to take this a little more seriously?
i agree, it's pretty foul. this is about a mass murder of almost an entire family.
and the Privvy Council's report went to considerable lengths to emphasise that while a "substantial miscarriage of justice" had taken place with his conviction (due to the way the trial and evidence had been handled), Bain has not been found innocent.
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The UK figures: CDs are bloody expensive there too.
Only on list price...out of Amazon UK I can usually land a new release CD for less than NZ$30, and a catalogue, or reissue CD for much less. I just grabbed the first two New Order albums for $27 total for both, including postage.
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Peter, prison nickname competition entry: Lord Foul's Bain.
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"who is your wool-yarns supplier?"
Do you think David Bain actually gets all the jokes about his sweater? Do you think he even remembers what he wearing when he was arrested?
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<>To be fair, Campbell Live also spent an inordinate amount of time determining that the good folk of Te Kauwhata were okay with their new neighbour. If there hadn't been yawning spaces of TV time to fill that could serviceably have been covered in one line of script.<>
Up to a point, Lord Copper's. Both as indifferent as each other.
My desire is for stimulating journlism that lives up to the ideal of illuminating issues important to society, not something which potentially undermines trust of news reporters in an audience (if audiences notice it at all).
Its drawing time away from other, more important, issues.
such as nz journalism critically examining its own self-conduct, as befits such an institution in a democracy.If press self-scrutiny happened more maybe news wouldnt be so dumb.
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Do you think David Bain actually gets all the jokes about his sweater? Do you think he even remembers what he wearing when he was arrested?
No, and having done my time on the police/court beat, I've got to say the standard of couture among the criminal fraternity is not one to make a fashionista's pulse race. Pop culture lies again... :)
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right lets see if i can include someones comment in my own...
Do you think David Bain actually gets all the jokes about his sweater?
woo hoo!
yeah i think he does, he laughed (although maybe in exasperation) at john campbells question, and hes wearing that fabulous red and black number today, very populist.
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3410,
I think Emma's nailed it for best question.
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I guess we've all gotten used to crap TV "journalism", but what really blows me away is that it was clearly going to be the live media event of the year, and still no-one bothered to come up with a decent question. I'm no msm journo, but wouldn't this have at least been a golden chance to make yourself look good, if nothing else? Sainsbury actually asked Bain twice about his "big smile". He gets front row honours for that? What a dork. He really must be quite contemptuous of his audience if he thinks that's the style they want.
Did anyone catch ONe's live cross to Wendy Petrie at about 3:30? Pretty poor. Her explaining 4 times that Bain hadn't yet come out of court, then thinking she spots him, then realising it's not him; then... umm... explaining that there's a large media contingent (y'know, the one that they set the whole piece up in front of), then suddenly realising how pointless it was (and possibly wishing she'd prepared something, anything, to say about the actual case), and back to you, Peter, defeated.
It's like "I'm not a reporter, but I play one on TV", with these people.
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Bain has not been found innocent.
riddley, but he has not been proven guilty. that's the gist of the "substantial miscarriage of justice stuff'.
he is currently accused of a crime, but he is not guilty of it (yet).
and hadyn. i'd say, "indelibly". -
As NaOH* mentioned back on the last page: david's wearing the red and black sweater today given to him by a local radio station. He chuckles when people mention it, but really to him that ugly (UGLY) sweater is what he was wearing when his parents were killed**.
I imagine he must find the humour about it hard. (especially if he's innocent)
*Getting back to my sciency roots with that one
**unless he's guilty, in which case he was probably wearing something else -
I guess we've all gotten used to crap TV "journalism", but what really blows me away is that it was clearly going to be the live media event of the year, and still no-one bothered to come up with a decent question.
You haven't answered the question though 3410, what would you have asked? Given that he made it clear he wasn't going to answer anything about the judicial process (and presumably therefore the case itself). We've had a lot of funny examples, prison nickname, whether he got action etc, but has anyone come up with some serious questions that would have beaten the media scrum that you're all having a go at?
If I sound a little defensive, I am. Just like everyone knows better than the All Black selectors, everyone in this country seems to be the new Current Affairs Genius/6pm Executive Producer in waiting. I'm not saying everything's As It Should Be in the MSM, far from it, but it's pretty easy just to call someone "a dork" and sit smugly back in your office chair...
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What's on David Bain's iPod?
After a week in the company of Joe Karam, especially spent in the Waikato it'll be Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
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What about:
"Do you bear any resentment towards those who may have stymied your chance at a fair trial" -
Sort of a "how do you feel" question but more explicit
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has anyone come up with some serious questions that would have beaten the media scrum that you're all having a go at?
Will you be applying for another gun license?
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On the jersey tip, I have been told that his famous jersey wasn't actually his, but was given to him by Victim Support when his clothes were taken away for evidentiary reasons.
Ironic, because it seems to many NZers it was one of the deciding factors in his guilt. Any grown man who still wears jerseys like that (and does a paper-round) is a maladjusted oddball capable of anything...
Still, it's no worse than the one Dobbyn wore in the Loyal video. I used to tell people I'd bought that in a Rock 'n' Roll memorabilia auction, and had it encased in perspex on my lounge wall...
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Craig, "I've got to say the standard of couture among the criminal fraternity is not one to make a fashionista's pulse race. Pop culture lies again... :)"
Stands to reason though. Most criminals don't give a shit what people think of them, other than other criminals, and being fashionable would probably be seen as being gay, which for some reason is equated with being a soft target. More pop culture lies...
Not that Bain is a career criminal. He was probably unfashionable for better reasons.
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LOL, Damian, thx for that blast from the past. Not only a shit jersey, but a shaggy mullet, tight black jeans and white sneakers. Reminds me of so many chicks when I was at school. Thank God those fashions moved on.
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"but it's pretty easy just to call someone "a dork" and sit smugly back in your office chair..."
A very succint description of blogland. We reserve the right to sit in our office chairs and call anyone a dork.
Seriously though....perhaps if our MSM representatives, especially the Television lot, were more interested in the news than in how they themselves come across on TV, we may be a little kinder on them.
JC entering the scrum with a subtle duck and dodge routine was one of TV's finest moments.
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got it... how about,
"david, it's been many long years since that awful day. in all that time, and in all the times you've had to reflect on the tragedy that struck your family, your loved ones, who have you missed the most?"
</notes that it obviously suits the extended interview format>
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PS. question offers chance to forgive father, thereby endearing himself to the nation, and increasing the likelihood of a pardon.
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3410,
You haven't answered the question though 3410, what would you have asked? Given that he made it clear he wasn't going to answer anything about the judicial process (and presumably therefore the case itself). We've had a lot of funny examples, prison nickname, whether he got action etc, but has anyone come up with some serious questions that would have beaten the media scrum that you're all having a go at?
I didn't realise it was directed at me, but if you give me the equivalent time of an AKL-CHCH flight to think of one, I will. In any case, Emma, for one, came up with a question that was ten times better than any offered by the pros, and in a few minutes, one suspects. If my only option was "how do you feel?" I'd have probably said nothing. I mean, why ask that for the seventh or eighth time? Is it just to get some tape with yourself on it? I can't see any other reason.
BTW, I also expect teachers, doctors, baristas or plumbers to be better at their job than I'd be.
I appreciate that you're defending collegues, and good on you for that, but I still say the performances were poor. The biggest news story of the year, well telegraphed, and they had nothing.
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