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  • Kyle Matthews,

    Privacy act?

    I found the privacy act next to useless many years ago when I made a complaint to the Privacy Commissioner about a clear breach of my privacy by the police.

    Not only did I have to show that they breached my privacy, but also I had to show how this had detrimentally affected me. If there were no negative consequences of them breaching my privacy, the Privacy Commissioner closed down the complaint.

    Since Nov 2006 • 6243 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    >Oh what a tangled web she weaves

    To me, it looks like she has accepted reality, and taken the sensible path of not trying to revile the whistleblowers. Key, on the other hand, is showing a remarkable lack of nous in even saying a single word about the issue.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10629 posts Report Reply

  • merc, in reply to BenWilson,

    Ben, read the last sentence.
    "You can take from that what you want to.''
    We are dealing with a mentality that knows no personal sense of responsibility to others. Good in a soldier, not so much in the Minister Tasked With Assisting The Disadvantaged

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to merc,

    "You can take from that what you want to.''

    reads to me like "no comment".

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10629 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Joshua Franklin,

    can anyone advise on the correct way to inform Paula Bennett if, hypothetically, her blog seemed to be vulnerable to SQL injection?

    Erm, no but Her Website is another story.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • merc, in reply to BenWilson,

    Take from it what you will, I saw a backhanded smear running against the flow of her first comments...remember "but" negates everything before it. This person is dangerously close to dissociative.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • SJ Parton, in reply to Raymond A Francis,

    Raymond, you ask: "just how likely is it that anyone in employment goes to a WINZ office and then sticks a device into a computer?"

    Many people in employment access "WINZ" (who are now called Work & Income) support. Work & Income provide benefits for people in employment that include: the accommodation supplement, childcare support (paid directly to childcare providers if parents earn under a certain amount), and community services cards.

    Regardless of the purpose for being there, waiting times at Work & Income are long. Maybe Ira had something he wanted to download onto his USB stick and didn't bring a laptop? Plenty of possible reasons.

    Now that I've answered that question, maybe we could all switch our attention off the messenger (where the spin doctors are directing us to look) and back onto the message?

    Wellington • Since Oct 2012 • 1 posts Report Reply

  • Joshua Franklin, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    I call the website "her blog" because it runs on Serendipity which calls itself a "weblog application". If the point wasn't in the distinction between "her blog" and "her website", then I missed it.

    Is that copy of the website a record of a modification to the live site or is it limited to the copy?

    Wellington • Since Oct 2012 • 5 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes, in reply to Joshua Franklin,

    Is that copy of the website a record of a modification to the live site or is it limited to the copy?

    Just a spoof. I wouldn't want to get on her bad side.
    ;-)

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Joshua Franklin, in reply to Steve Barnes,

    Fair enough ;)

    Shame it's too dangerous to let her know the real site could be so modified.

    Wellington • Since Oct 2012 • 5 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard, in reply to merc,

    Attachment

    She said Mr Bailey and Ng had ultimately done the department a favour.
    "I feel no ill-feeling towards any of them.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard, in reply to merc,

    Take from it what you will, I saw a backhanded smear running against the flow of her first comments...remember "but" negates everything before it. This person is dangerously close to dissociative.

    She ain't saying he's no golddigger...

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • merc, in reply to Tom Beard,

    Yep, sadly pretty much the default attitude from those who should serve us. Things are so broken this could be a wonderful opportunity to rebuild from the ground up - evidence from Christchurch says no.
    And no harm no foul when you have a 600+k a year CEO to fall on their swords for you because as you and I know, no one from Cabinet going to be ousted for anything this millennial cycle.
    I applaud in a twisted way this Govt. that it has so twisted the democratic landscape to such a catastrophic fail level and yet still retain their grip on power and all it's perks - pure awe.
    Oh and the creepy thing? I almost feel a little worried writing this, yes, they are that creepy.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Sacha, in reply to Tom Beard,

    gold

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19667 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to BenWilson,

    "You can take from that what you want to.''

    reads to me like "no comment".

    Reads to me like, "You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment."

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • Tom Beard, in reply to Emma Hart,

    Reads to me like, "You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment."

    F.U.

    Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 1040 posts Report Reply

  • Emma Hart, in reply to Tom Beard,

    F.U.

    Seeing as you asked so nicely

    Christchurch • Since Nov 2006 • 4650 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to merc,

    remember "but" negates everything before it.

    I'm pretty sure "but" is a conjunction, not a negation. It's logically equivalent to "and", just has a different tone.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10629 posts Report Reply

  • Kumara Republic, in reply to Tom Beard,

    “I feel no ill-feeling towards any of them.

    One flew over the cloud cuckoolander's nest...

    The southernmost capital … • Since Nov 2006 • 5414 posts Report Reply

  • merc, in reply to BenWilson,

    I'm pretty sure "but" is a conjunction, not a negation.

    Yeah nah.
    Try it out some time, fail safe in most truth distorting situations. Used often by media trained people. I was there and it may have happened but I cannot remember if it did.
    I hear what you're saying but I can't answer. You're logic is irrefutable but I cannot understand why you say that.
    And so on but your understanding may be at odds with mine.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to merc,

    "Keith is a god, and he is mortal"

    is logically the same as

    "Keith is a god, but he is mortal".

    The second just brings attention to the incongruity of the two parts. But it still asserts both of them are true.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10629 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Reeves, in reply to BenWilson,

    Rhetorical and logical meanings might be different.

    Near Donny Park, Hamilton… • Since Apr 2007 • 94 posts Report Reply

  • merc,

    The Master,
    "Neither the director of the GCSB or me recall the reference to the Dotcom matter during the visit, but I accept that well have been made.
    "I wish to make it clear that I was not informed by the GCSB on its role in the Dotcom matter, nor any issues of potential illegality until Monday, 17th September,'' he said.
    Mr Key said he had no intention to mislead the house.
    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10840916
    But you're reasoning is sound Ben.

    Since Dec 2006 • 2471 posts Report Reply

  • Hebe, in reply to Emma Hart,

    "You can take from that what you want to.''
    reads to me like "no comment".
    Reads to me like, "You might very well think that; I couldn't possibly comment."

    Reads to me like: "You're all bastards. Every single one of yous."

    Christchurch • Since May 2011 • 2895 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson, in reply to Steve Reeves,

    Rhetorical and logical meanings might be different.

    They might very well be different :-)

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10629 posts Report Reply

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