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  • Andre Alessi,

    I decided not to even wish I had gone to the BDO this year, unlike the last couple of years of claiming to have wanted to go, then not. I realised pretty early on that the only reason I even want to go anymore is to be able to tell stories about who and what I saw afterwards-the music itself has become almost peripheral for me.

    Devonport, New Zealand • Since Nov 2006 • 864 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Though it depends on one's chosen lifestyle, but I doubt Ms Allen has cheap tastes, somehow.

    That means she is in danger of becoming another irrelevant celebrity living on past glories indulging in crass displays of wealth beyond her means.

    Or she could live within the means afforded by her income, which would be a whole lot better that 80% of the global population.

    Jeez, could you guys possibly look for a fact or two to go on before cranking up your grand chorus of disapproval? Your-tutting is keeping people awake in neighbouring countries.

    Personally, if I was a 24 year-old pop star, I'd be havin' it large.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • recordari,

    Personally, if I was a 24 year-old pop star, I'd be havin' it large.

    Yeah, what are you all trying to be, her dad? I think that roles taken. The pink dress was so un-BDO main stage it was perfect, and the sing-a-long break up songs, accompanied by thousands of youngsters for whom the sentiment was like, fo' real, ya' know, kind of made my day. I was young once too, rumour has it. Although my break up album was The Cure Disintegration, so this is way more constructive. FU and your crew! If only someone had told me...

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    Personally, if I was a 24 year-old pop star, I'd be havin' it large.

    Yeah agreed, but to be fair she's spent a large part of the past two years doing her own tut tutting of her generation's habits. What goes around...

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • Rich of Observationz,

    I'm not tutting about her tastes at all. She should fully go for it, I would.
    There's a lot of marching powder just crying out to get snorted...

    I defer to Simon's expertise - my assumption on money from hit singles is mostly based around peoples biographies, where it seems that the first hit doesn't pay back the advance. Maybe if it's a number one for weeks all over the world, and they had a good manager and contract it's different?

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report

  • Rich of Observationz,

    her dad? I think that roles taken

    You asked for it....

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report

  • Simon Grigg,

    @Rich. Of course every case varies hugely and it comes down, as you say, to how much you've spent getting there. But I'm talking in isolation of all that, a reasonable self written hit will provide a gross income that viably could set a person up for a comfortable lifestyle.

    However, in the real world, it rarely does because of the variables and the way the many labels contractually structure artist recoupment.

    Just another klong... • Since Nov 2006 • 3284 posts Report

  • recordari,

    You asked for it....

    The only answer to that is obviously this...

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • stephen clover,

    As one of the top two British MCs he's like Miles Davis to Roots Manuva's Ornette Coleman

    O M F G that's a totally brilliant simile, nice job.

    OT but not OT, if you get what I mean: In a rare celebrity Google Street View sighting, the lead singer of psychedelic American rock band The Flaming Lips has been snapped sitting outside in a bathtub by Google's all-seeing eye.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report

  • andin,

    Jeez, could you guys possibly look for a fact or two to go on before cranking up your grand chorus of disapproval? Your-tutting is keeping people awake in neighbouring countries.
    Personally, if I was a 24 year-old pop star, I'd be havin' it large.

    You jump to conclusions Sir. I don't disapprove and am not tut-tutting.
    She can and will do as takes her fancy.
    It's just so much easier on the mind, having it large, after a visit to the accountant.
    Im envious, if you want something to bash me over the head with.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • dyan campbell,

    She can and will do as takes her fancy.
    It's just so much easier on the mind, having it large, after a visit to the accountant.

    Im envious, if you want something to bash me over the head with.

    Well, there's even more to envy - I think if you checked her accounts you'd find that much of what looks like living it up large is actually earning her a sizable part of her fortune. Wherever you see a non-model modelling, you are seeing a paid endorsement. Paid endorsements do not come cheap - and they're not going to pay her off in $5,000.00 handbags either. I would be curious to see how the dollars from this campaign stack up against her earnings from music. They'd both be very large sums.

    Lily Allen the Face of Chanel

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 595 posts Report

  • dyan campbell,

    Sad music news:

    Kate McGarrigle Dies

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 595 posts Report

  • andin,

    They'd both be very large sums.

    Im turning green, and its not my eco friendly coffee doing it.

    Kate McGarrigle Dies

    Loved her style, now I feel sad.

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    That pink number didn't happen to be by Chanel?

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • Geoff Lealand,

    Kate McGarrigle Dies

    Very, very sad. I remember seeing her in concert in Wellington with her sister years ago and I treasure their records. Such a beautiful blend of voices.

    Screen & Media Studies, U… • Since Oct 2007 • 2562 posts Report

  • dyan campbell,

    That pink number didn't happen to be by Chanel?

    Mmm, probably not, though it was faintly Chanel-esq in the clean edges and space suit lines. Not that she couldn't afford to trash a $10,000 dress but usually a big house like Chanel wlll have a lot of say how you wear their clothes, who sees you, what you're doing in them, what you say when wearing them etc. I don't think Chanel would agree to let their stuff be worn during one of her concerts, though I can see they would be prepared to pay her millions to wear their stuff in their editorial campaigns and red carpet events.

    Weird world, celebrity endorsements. I can remember reading Michael Jordan made more endorsing Nikes than every factory worker since the dawn of Nike had been paid collectively. Is that possible?

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 595 posts Report

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    That pink number didn't happen to be by Chanel?

    Mmm, probably not,

    Maybe so. Karl even likes fake tatoos

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report

  • dyan campbell,

    Maybe so. Karl even likes fake tatoos

    Possibly... but I'm guessing not, as none of the articles about the BDO said she was dressed in Chanel, which would be pretty important to them - they would want very staged, scripted photo ops to accompany any appearance of their product. If she's wearing Chanel, they would really, really want her press releases to say so, and they'd make sure the press said so as well.

    But I'm pretty sure she embodies pretty much everything the company is looking for - a ratio of 85% cute to 15% edge, and she does look great in their product. Chanel has carefully been distancing itself from the image of the elegant but deeply middle aged and terribly conservative. Lily Allen is a good choice.

    God, I used to spend a lot of money on clothes. I once spent a month's salary on a dress. I must have been insane.

    Lily Allen Pictures (of the photo-op variety)

    lily Allen Face of Chanel

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 595 posts Report

  • recordari,

    Excuse the interruption but Chris Knox and The Nothing are playing Laneways. They decided the secret was out, so now it is...

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Excuse the interruption but Chris Knox and The Nothing are playing Laneways. They decided the secret was out, so now it is...

    Oh, phew. I knew that, but I didn't know whether it was official-like yet.

    Chris is still very much in recovery, but rock 'n' roll's restorative power is truly awesome. Yay!

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • recordari,

    Oh, phew. I knew that, but I didn't know whether it was official-like yet.

    Felt a bit naughty being the one posting it here, but I was so excited, just had to share it. The thought of him planning ahead to do a concert with his mates fills me with great joy, and I am just a fan.

    AUCKLAND • Since Dec 2009 • 2607 posts Report

  • Sacha,

    Lily Allen Pictures (of the photo-op variety)

    More Chanel-ish if she had been shot in black and white, then..

    Ak • Since May 2008 • 19745 posts Report

  • dyan campbell,

    More Chanel-ish if she had been shot in black and white, then..

    No, it's more that any accompanying press is about her dress - or in the shots where she's not wearing their clothes - their handbags or sunglasses. So you get all these "paparazzi" shots where she's shopping - carrying Chanel handbag and shopping bags - dressed in Chanel on the red carpet etc.

    Chanel would probably be only too happy to have Lily Allen perform in their outfits, but there would be carefully, specifically spelled out stipulations as to the prominence of their product in relation to her music - and I doubt that she would agree to let her music be overshadowed by the clothes.

    But who knows? Things change - this is how the endorsement world would have worked years back, but who knows. And it depends on the product... Janis Joplin was seen so much with a bottle of Southern Comfort in her hand the company bought her a Lynx coat. Though that was far from an official endorsement deal.

    But Chanel... there would be millions of dollars exchanging hands for the deal, not to mention the insane freebies she'd get, I think they would be very specific about how and when their product was showcased. One thing's for sure - she is not only going to be not wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars on those clothes and accessories, she is going to become very rich being seen in them instead.

    auckland • Since Dec 2006 • 595 posts Report

  • Russell Brown,

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22850 posts Report

  • andin,

    Popular NZ singer Boh Runga drenches the heartbreaking "Not Given Lightly" in superfluous layers of 1950s camp, but the song's spirit fights its way through anyway

    teehee

    raglan • Since Mar 2007 • 1891 posts Report

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