Speaker: How to Look Good as a Nazi
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And here's a copy of the Undie 500 on video. Note how The Press edited the lynched & Black-faced guy from the Ku Klux Van, but thought it fine to have the yellow-faced "Gooks of Hazard".
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I read the cheating story as justification of the paper's initial angle - and the story is the stonewalling by Lincoln that took several years to crack.
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/2950094/Students-ordered-to-pay-fine-visit-museum
* Visit the Holocaust Museum in Wellington and possibly the German Embassy at their own expense;
* Pay a fine of $200;
* Submit a 2000 word essay on a topic determined by the chair of the committee;
* Two students who wore the most offensive T-shirts also had to complete 150 hours of community service for the university.
I've nothing against this punishment. However I'm struck by the fact that it's a bigger punishment than many NAZIs ever got. So I'm getting the impression here that we're no longer chasing NAZIs, the battle lines have been redrawn.
Of all the campaigns to partake in, while protagonists of that war still breath free air. It doesn't make sense for German's to globally reprioritize their feelings of national inadequacy above the quest for real justice against the real criminals that brought them their inadequacy. Good taste is not more valuable than human life. There is a far more righteous crusade to appease the national shame.
The message you have sent to surviving German war criminals Anke is startling.
I don't find what the Lincoln students did worthy of any merit. But I respect their freedom of expression more than the freedom of those who administered the atrocities of world war 2.
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Mark, I think you have a point.
The battle lines have been redrawn.
Mainly because we're running out of Nazis and there is an almost total acceptance of the horrors of the Holocaust and Nazism in general.
I also think the shame & horror that many Germans feel when talking about this subject is understandable and so the need to act upon it is real.
I reject Voltaires maxium "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it". And instead opt for Poppers limits on freedom to protect all.
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yeah, I'm not necessarily advocating that Anke should better direct energy towards becoming an enthusiast NAZI hunter, but of punishment for the drunk students or assistance to the wartime survivor who lost his job for refusing to wear the the 'NAZI' shirt, I know which cause I'd be getting behind. It seems far more serious.
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Now the gnomes are doing it.
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Mainly because we're running out of Nazis and there is an almost total acceptance of the horrors of the Holocaust and Nazism in general.
Not total. My father-in-law has landed and already I've been subjected to several attempts to convince me of the far greater horrors of Stalinism, Americanism, and of course those insidious Jews who have been pulling strings since time began.
It began even faster than last time - unfortunately the road to Auckland from the airport is called 'Bader Drive' after the famous pilot. I got to hear the 'other side' of accounts of Allied war heroes (Bader included), mostly focusing on how lame they were compared to the German ones.
Not really sure how to deal with it at this time. I don't usually care to make subjects like The War taboo, but if he keeps pushing it, it's going to end in tears.
So I kind of get where you're coming from pitting Voltaire (who I would usually agree with wholeheartedly) against Popper (ironically a German). There might have to be limits to how much I'll put up with in my own house.
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Looks like this one's nearly out, we'll just chuck a bit more fuel on and give it a bit of a fan.
I got to hear the 'other side' of accounts of Allied war heroes (Bader included), mostly focusing on how lame they were compared to the German ones.
Douglas Bader had no legs. And yet still managed to kick arse in the battle of britain as a fighter pilot. I think that's a more or less unbeatable trump card.
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Lame, no legs, kick arse. Classic.
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Douglas Bader had no legs. And yet still managed to kick arse in the battle of britain as a fighter pilot.
Also, he (possibly apocryphally) gave the prizegiving speech at a posh girls school in England, which included the following exchange:
Bader: So we had four of the fuckers on my tail with another two of the fuckers off to the left...
Headmistress (interrupting): Girls, a Fokker was a type of German aeroplane.
Bader: Don't know about that, these fuckers were flying Messerschmidts -
I think that's a more or less unbeatable trump card.
Not completely
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I imagine similarly colourful speeches at a certain posh boys school tomorrow.
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This also offers us Kiwis the oppitunity to examine our own War Time History.
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Not completely
Interesting. I'd never heard of him before. Cheers.
Still think Bader takes it, though, albeit on the nod. He had one leg amputed above the knee, and according to that wiki article, Maresyev had both off below the knee.
Retaining an original articulating joint (knee or elbow) is a considerable advantage for amputees and prosthetics.
But this:
During a dog fight in August 1943, he downed three German FW-190 fighters.
is impressive.
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Don't forget Maresyev's PhD! Those aren't easy to get.
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Don't forget Maresyev's PhD! Those aren't easy to get.
I think the examination could have been slightly less strenuous for a war hero and high up in the communist party.
Searching questions as part of the examination process might have been hazardous for the health of the examiner.
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In Soviet Russia, student examine YOU!
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I've always loved the various stories about Manners St. The lies and the truth tell us something about who we are and who we want to be.
Wazzir in Cairo isn't a million miles away from Castle St in Dunners after the Undie 500.
Who knows about the Surafend massacre after the 1918 Armistice today?
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But this:
During a dog fight in August 1943, he downed three German FW-190 fighters.
is impressive.
Surviving Soviet wartime military medical care is also pretty damn impressive, as is downing the FW-190, arguably the finest piston driven fighter aircraft of all time, let alone three in a one fight especially as the German fighters were still, in those pre-1944 P-51 turkey shoot days, still being flown by some of the most highly trained and experienced pilots on the planet.
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In Soviet Russia, student examine YOU!
Awww, Rich, dorky high five! I thought I was the only one who still made Yakov Smirnoff jokes.
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The Russian Reversal survives and thrives but of course many of its internets aficionadoes can't remember the USSR at all, yet alone Yakov...
... colour me guilty in this respect, as I can only just remember seeing the USSR on globes at school and being told by teachers "um, well that's not actually there anymore, we'll get some new maps soon"...
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It is suspected Bader was able to retain conciousness longer because not having lower legs acted like a form G-Suit, retaining blood that have otherwise would have rushed away from his head and causing him to black out.
But anyway, I have little time for Douglas Bader. He lost his legs being an idiot and stunting his aircraft to low. He was lucky he just lost his legs. Bader was the very epitome of the establishment, anti-intellectual, countrified aristocract that came damn close in it's stupidity to losing the war. His behaviour in cahoots with his big-wing buddy Sholto-Douglas that led to the firing of Dowding (and Park) wasn't just insubordinate, it was disgraceful. He was lucky man, not the least that he got shot down and captured at the right time to ensure he became a hero.
The consumate professional's of airfighting in WWII were the Americans and the Germans. One one of my favourite quotes of all is from General Hap Arnold, who looking out an airfield full of B-17 bombers and long-range P-51 Mustangs said "Now we are going to show the Germans what a war of attrition really means". As a statement of intent, it is hard to beat that.
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As a statement of intent, it is hard to beat that.
And it's light years ahead of the noxious mix of evil and buffoonery that was Bomber Harris. The Allied bombers may not have achieved very much as a strategic force but the waves of P-51s decimated the experienced pilot ranks of the Luftwaffe, effectively neutralising it.
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