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  • 3410,

    You need to be here. Very good for your hair.

    If nothing else works out, I'll get back to you about that one.


    @ BarNZy,
    Yep, that's an actual photo.

    Auckland • Since Jan 2007 • 2618 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    Making your own soap use fat & caustic soda
    Use hemp oil if that's your thing.

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report Reply

  • chris,

    cause we're inhibited so and sos

    Compared to say, Koreans, sure, that argument could be made.

    Mawkland • Since Jan 2010 • 1302 posts Report Reply

  • Rich of Observationz,

    Making your own soap use [sic] fat & caustic soda

    Yes, I've seen such soap described as "organic".

    This despite the fact that much production of NaOH still uses the mercury cell process, which is one of the main causes of environmental mercury pollution. It would in theory be possible to source NaOH that's guaranteed to have come from a more modern (diaphragm/membrance cell) plant, but you can bet the kind of hippies that make organic soap would have no clue about this.

    Back in Wellington • Since Nov 2006 • 5550 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    Old days here, never used soap as such - kumarahou ( a leafy plant) was used for hair and underarm/genital hair etc IF you wished them to smell of not much else- otherwise it was a lot of swimming, use of fat (expecially bird), charcoal, and red ochre (the latter protected against insect ravages).

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Just thinking,

    Here's Hemp for Victory, 1942. They even talk about planting in places not easy to access & check out the certificate.

    Of course flax is really the best option for NZ as we move out of the carbon economy, we are doing that?

    Putaringamotu • Since Apr 2009 • 1158 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Also, try being a conventionally longer-haired woman and washing with nothing but water so your 'natural oils' don't get 'stripped', and see how many jobs you get after a series of stringy-rats-tailed interviews.

    I was mostly meaning soap on my body. Shampoo tends to go on me after using it, and that's my main issue with it. I don't get itchy hair , although the scalp can definitely get dry - I have far less dandruff than when I used to shampoo.

    I'm sure washing long hair is a chore. Although it seems from the outside that it's not the washing that's the problem, it's the drying, brushing and combing afterward. Conditioner helps?

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Back on topic Here is an interesting article.

    So-called "skunk" does contain higher than normal concentrations of the main psychoactive compound, a molecule called delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC). What is less well known is that another constituent, cannabidiol (CBD), has been eliminated from skunk through selective breeding to increase the THC content.

    The elimination of CBD may play a key role in the development of psychosis. Laboratory studies have shown that pure, synthetic THC causes transient psychosis in 40 to 50 per cent of healthy people. In stark contrast to THC, CBD appears to have an anti-psychotic effect, at least in animals. Studies in humans, though few in number, have produced similar findings.
    New Scientist 26 January 2010 by Amanda Feilding and Paul Morrison

    Gimmee the old fashioned Bush Weed anyday.

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Russell Brown,

    Gimmee the old fashioned Bush Weed anyday.

    Amen, brother.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 22817 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Gimmee the old fashioned Bush Weed anyday.

    Amen, brother.

    Seconded.
    And wont the little plants be happy when it rains? (I hear thunder)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Hard to get Bush Weed though. The Tragedy of the Commons.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Hard to get Bush Weed though.

    Oh.. poor dear :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Yes, I have to suck on my sticky stinky skunk. That alone is enough to make a man psychotic, not even knowing an organic gardener.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Yes, I have to suck on my sticky stinky skunk. That alone is enough to make a man psychotic, not even knowing an organic gardener.

    Which takes us around full circle. We should be able to include a pot plant outside with all the other pot plants!!

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • Steve Barnes,

    Like I totally clicked on that banner you got there dude...
    The one with the leaves an' shit on it...
    Takes a while to get loaded but...
    Where are my toes?...

    Peria • Since Dec 2006 • 5521 posts Report Reply

  • Islander,

    That banner was neat! And sweet! And very very cunning-

    Big O, Mahitahi, Te Wahi … • Since Feb 2007 • 5643 posts Report Reply

  • Stephen McIntyre,

    Yes, I have to suck on my sticky stinky skunk. That alone is enough to make a man psychotic, not even knowing an organic gardener.

    How about this scary story I heard from a Gro shop person: just last month a small-scale indoor grower without much of an IQ decided to get rid of the bugs on his almost ripe buds by spraying then with fly-spray!!!

    "They didn't look too good after that" he said. Well, duh!

    And what did he do with his harvest? Sold it, of course!

    Do you know who grows your smoke????

    Auckland • Since Jan 2010 • 37 posts Report Reply

  • steven crawford,

    That banner was neat! And sweet! And very very cunning-

    I'd watch out for the subliminal messages. I'm pretty sure it was telling me to buy chocolate fish!

    Atlantis • Since Nov 2006 • 4411 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    I'm pretty sure it was telling me to buy chocolate fish!

    So that's why I keep looking for something sweet. Good thing my sweetie is around. :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Do you know who grows your smoke????

    I do. He would never dream of such sacrilege - his only insecticide is a tiny pair of scissors.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • stephen clover,

    just last month a small-scale indoor grower without much of an IQ decided to get rid of the bugs on his almost ripe buds by spraying then with fly-spray!!! [...] Do you know who grows your smoke????

    Of course, the gangs have been "souping up" their product using flyspray for years, so... some people wouldn't even notice the difference.

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report Reply

  • BenWilson,

    Can I score some stephen "four leaf" clover? I heard the right flyspray takes you to the moon.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 10650 posts Report Reply

  • Sofie Bribiesca,

    Like any plants surely the standard "wait 3 days before one can consume",( and this message can be on some pretty powerful type insecticides) would be sufficient to render the plant back in a smokable state. Not that I would consider it. :)

    here and there. • Since Nov 2007 • 6796 posts Report Reply

  • stephen clover,

    Can I score some stephen "four leaf" clover? I heard the right flyspray takes you to the moon.

    Bro, just walk around until you find a tinny house (clearly indicated by a pair of shoes tied together by the laces and slung over the powerlines, right?).

    Truthfully, though... I'd give it a miss...

    wgtn • Since Sep 2007 • 355 posts Report Reply

  • Sam F,

    Opportune time to bump this thread given last night's news:

    A national indoor gardening chain would not have turned a profit if it hadn't been knowingly supplying equipment and advice to cannabis growers, police say.

    Directors, managers and staff from the 16 Switched On Gardener stores - which are advertised on national television - around the country have been arrested and charged as part of Operation Lime which targeted businesses responsible for the commercial sale of equipment used to grow cannabis.

    The Press had a story including this:

    Police Deputy Commissioner Rob Pope said yesterday Operation Lime would "break the cornerstone of the illicit cannabis-cultivation industry".

    "Cannabis is the most abused controlled drug in New Zealand. The harm that this drug causes New Zealand communities can be conservatively estimated at $430 million a year. It hurts every community in every part of the country."

    An interesting time for an investigation of this kind to come to a high-profile end, given the renewed debate about alcohol, which causes harm in the region of $1-4 billion a year, including around $650 million in public health costs alone (according to estimates by Brian Easton from 2002, cited by ALAC's website). But heaven forbid we should dare to even place an increased tax burden on this dynamic industry.

    Auckland • Since Nov 2006 • 1609 posts Report Reply

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